Absolutely correct Paul.  My feelings exactly.  Regards,  Bob S.

On 12/22/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is really no such thing as a pure merger. One partner is always
> dominant. Yet many mergers/acquisitions are successful and made with
> the best intentions. And when a product line is strong, it survives.
> Deeper resources can be a plus for a small manufacturer. I see this
> as a very positive step for Pentax. However, short term it will have
> no impact whatsoever. It's far too soon for hand wringing. I'm good
> with my current equipment for the next few years at least. And I hope
> to add some DA* lenses. They're not going away.
> Paul
> On Dec 22, 2006, at 10:03 AM, graywolf wrote:
>
> > One of the things that amuses me is how most people figure this
> > stuff is
> > about manufacturing and selling things. No, it is about financial
> > maniplations with the intention of large amounts of cash getting stuck
> > in your pockets during the transaction. You can believe that the folks
> > who engineered this are far wealthier than they were a year ago.
> >
> >  From what I have seen over the years, merger=marriage,
> > acquisition=rape.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob Sullivan wrote:
> >> This is all financial engineering stuff done by the Mergers &
> >> Acquisition people.
> >> They look at the sales/marketing end of the business and say,
> >> "Wow, Hoya and Pentax have some strengths in the marketplace with
> >> buyers."
> >> Then they look at the the manufacturing/distribution side of the
> >> business and say,
> >> "Wow, they could do that a lot cheaper if they consolidated
> >> operations."
> >> So the financial guys 'engineer' a more profitable new enterprise.
> >> (Sometimes the results workout, sometimes they don't - the M & A
> >> people get their money up front!)
> >> Regards,  Bob S.
> >>
> >> On 12/21/06, Bertil Holmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> Pentax is a valuable trademark, and its value is increasing now
> >>>> with the K-series dslrs.  I do not think they will leave it.
> >>> More info from DCWatch. Twice as large and much more profitable HOYA
> >>> is swallowing Pentax but I'm sure they will keep their trade marks.
> >>> Will this mean HOYA glass in Pentax lenses?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Basic agreement for HOYA, Pentax, and business integration
> >>>
> >>> The digital camera maintains the imaging business of Pentax.
> >>>
> >>> HOYA Ltd. and Pentax Ltd. announced that it basic agreed for the two
> >>> companies to amalgamate on the 21st and October 1, 2007, and to do
> >>> the management integration. The surviving company becomes HOYA. The
> >>> name of the company of a new company is "HOYA Pentax HD (Eitide)
> >>> Ltd.. "
> >>>
> >>> President and Representative Director present Pentax Fumio Urano
> >>> assumes the position of the new company director chairman and
> >>> Hiroshi
> >>> present HOYA representative execution post CEO Suzuki assumes the
> >>> position of representative execution post CEO respectively. In
> >>> integration, the common stock 0.158 stocks a common stock stock of
> >>> Pentax of HOYA are allocated.
> >>>
> >>> The two companies assume optics, the image, and the material to be a
> >>> common technological base by business integration, and aim at the
> >>> optimization of the business centering on each field of the life
> >>> care, Optx, the information electronics, the eye caring, and the
> >>> imaging system. Additionally, earnings to which the information
> >>> electronics field and the eye caring field are steady are turned on,
> >>> and it aims at strategic growth in the life caring field. In
> >>> addition, the business structure is qualitatively converted by the
> >>> vertical integration, and strengthening competitive edge is aimed at
> >>> in the Optx field.
> >>>
> >>> After it integrates it, each business field where "Business section
> >>> to which the authority is transferred with a small headquarters" was
> >>> assumed to be an indicator is reorganized. In a new company, it is
> >>> assumed that HOYA and the brand of Pentax of each business field are
> >>> made the best use of.
> >>>
> >>> In the imaging system fields such as digital cameras and binoculars,
> >>> the imaging business of Pentax is maintained. The differentiation is
> >>> aimed at with the high value-added product, and it specializes in
> >>> the
> >>> field where competitive edge can be demonstrated. The same field is
> >>> aimed at, and moreover, it locates, and the horizontal
> >>> development is
> >>> aimed at with the mother's body that invents a new technology of the
> >>> optical equipment system in the life caring field and the security
> >>> field.
> >>>
> >>> It is assumed that it wants to attempt differentiating by raising
> >>> the
> >>> additional value that demonstrates the strong point of the two
> >>> companies in each field for the intensification of the
> >>> competition by
> >>> the entry of gaining power Asian power and the appliance maker etc.
> >>> in the digital camera field, and centers on the technology in
> >>> addition to cost competitiveness.
> >>>
> >>> In the Optx fields of the optical glass, the lens, and the digital
> >>> camera module, etc. , the Optx business of HOYA and the optical
> >>> component business of Pentax are integrated. The material lens, the
> >>> processing, and the vertical integration to the module are aimed at
> >>> from the design, cost competitiveness is improved, and the
> >>> technological development power is strengthened at the same time.
> >>> Moreover, the competitive edge that can correspond to the industry
> >>> structure change in the future including Asian power is secured by
> >>> using HOYA, the manufacturing base of Pentax, and the customer base
> >>> mutually.
> >>>
> >>> In the life caring field such as endoscopes, a medical business of
> >>> HOYA and the life caring business of Pentax are integrated. The same
> >>> field is aimed at, and it locates, and consistent development from
> >>> the diagnosis to treatment is aimed at with the strategic growth
> >>> field. Moreover, it aims at doubling the business scale by expanding
> >>> the improvement of the product development power by the research and
> >>> development investment and M&A and business and the marketing body
> >>> poses.
> >>>
> >>> The information electronics field such as the glass magnetic disks
> >>> separates the Optx business from the electro Optx field of HOYA. It
> >>> enhances competitiveness as a center business of the earning power
> >>> after it integrates it and growth is aimed at.
> >>>
> >>> The eye caring field of glasses and the contact lens separates a
> >>> medical business from the eye caring field of HOYA. It aims at the
> >>> information electronics field and a center business and the location
> >>> growth that queues up from can the expectation of stable growth.
> >>>
> >>> In other fields, the business of the two companies is maintained.
> >>> The
> >>> research and development section unites the R&D center of HOYA and
> >>> the research and development headquarters of Pentax as a Corporate
> >>> section. It improves the efficiency of the business selecting and
> >>> intensively in the new field such as the measurement equipment where
> >>> earnings or more are expected in the future while invested
> >>> positively.
> >>>
> >>> The two companies set up the integrated preparation committee that
> >>> makes Hiroshi Suzuki execution by proxy post CEO of HOYA and
> >>> President and Representative Director Fumio Urano of Pentax for
> >>> management and the business in a new company after it integrates
> >>> it a
> >>> mirror trunk chairman. It is assumed, it is, and "An excellent each
> >>> two companies, point is brought together in this committee, and a
> >>> new
> >>> system is produced jointly" in various systems.
> >>>
> >>> HOYA Pentax HD that is a new company continues listing to the first
> >>> in the Tokyo Stock Exchange market that HOYA is listing now. New
> >>> stock reservation right etc. of the number of issue schedule stocks
> >>> and the Pentax luminescence because of the address of a new home
> >>> office of a company, total assets, the capital, and the amalgamation
> >>> are assumed to make it public as soon as it fixes.
> >>>
> >>> HOYA has the world top share in the glass magnetic disk base for
> >>> Mascbrancs and HDD related to the semiconductor. Moreover, the
> >>> optical glass and the lens bear the corner of the leading company.
> >>> The consolidated sales amount at the period on March, 2006 is 344
> >>> billion yen, operating profit 101 billion yen, and gross profit 75.6
> >>> billion yen. The number of employees is 3,338 people.
> >>>
> >>> Pentax is developing the endoscope etc. in the medical equipment
> >>> field in addition to sales of the digital camera and the digital
> >>> camera module. Sales at the period on March, 2006 are 142.2 billion
> >>> yen, the operating profit three billion yen, and the gross profit
> >>> 800
> >>> million yen. The number of employees is 1,336 people.
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