The sad part Frank is he was right. Apparently you know no other epithet if
YOU don't like what someone says it's racist.
I personally thought Scooters post was extremely disturbing, very anti
social, and
probably in poor taste however it wasn't racist.
You however have a holier than thou attitude which is not becoming. I
doubt that
Scoorterman really cares what you think of him, which is the only reason I
can see
for revisionism. Because of this I at least believe he's telling the truth
he laid
a trap for you and you walked in.
Your reasonableness in this totally unreasonable situation is getting a bit
old.
I know I'm in the minority however I'm tired of it.
By the way. It seems that the Chinese have just apprehended a number of
gentlemen
who seemed to have plans to attack American interests in China. This has to
be somewhat
embarrassing to the Chinese government, they so believe in order and control.
Needless to these gentelmen they seem to be of middle eastern origin. There
is that politically correct enough for you.
At 11:04 PM 9/13/2001 -0400, Frank wrote:
>No amount of glossing or revision can change what you said in your first post:
>
>"> let's KILL SOMETHING.... THEN pray over it
> >
> > Afghanistan/Pakistan.... whatever. Plow em BOTH under & salt the soil."
>
>You didn't say "if" they're responsible. You didn't say we "may yet" level
>them. It was a clear call to raze and destroy them. I found that offensive
>and insensitive.
>
>And, as far as what may or may not be racist, I think it's fair to go beyond
>mere dictionary definitions. I have no doubt that the proprietors of your
>local gas bar wear turbans. Why mention it? To what end? Why mention that
>"they still want $4 a gallon" for gas - as if it's wrong for them to do so?
>
>You chose to identify someone by a stereotypical physical
>characteristic. That
>would be like referring to an African-American gas bar owner as "the
>curly-haired friend", or a Chinese one as "the slant-eyed friend". The
>context
>in which you made the statement ("though they still wanted $4.00 a gal for
>petrol") sure sounded like a put down, and hence was, as far as I'm concerned,
>a racist comment.
>
>Please note, that I didn't call YOU a racist. I said it was a racist comment,
>and I stand by what I said.
>
>And by the way, I didn't assume anything about hijackers, Arabs, Muslims, or
>anything else. I simply felt that your comment about the fact that the
>gas bar
>owners or attendants wear turbans was inappropriate, no matter what their
>ethnicity - especially given the context of recent events.
>
>If I'm wrong about your comments - or you - then I apologize. And, I DID mean
>the part about "have a good day". :-)
>
>-frank
>
>Scooterman wrote:
>
> > Frank...
> >
> > Before you make accusations toward someone,
> > understand what it is you're accusing them of:
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > racism \ra-si-zem also -shi-\ noun (1936)
> > 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and
> > capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a
> > particular race
> > 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
> > racist \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective
> > (C) 1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > I stated a personal opinion based upon the evidence (so far) that if it IS
> > indeed Pakistan/Afghanistan responsible for our current woes (which
> > actually started over 10yrs ago), we may YET level the countries mentioned.
> > Something the Russians were unwilling to do.
> >
> > I'd just like to see it taken to it's most extreme conclusion & salt the
> > earth (as the Egyptians did to a N. African country over 3,000 years ago).
> > That way, "putting an end to terrorism" may be a bit easier... in the long
> > run.
> >
> > As far as the new gas attendants goes, those were statements of FACT.
> >
> > Hey... maybe it was *coincidence* that the turban wearing managers/owners
> > of the gas station hired American "looking" attendants & started giving
> > them instructions by phone. I dunno. They may be on vacation.
> >
> > In today's melting pot, what DOES an "American" look like? Eh?
> > Asian? Mexican? AfroAmerican? Hindi? Puerto Rican?
> > That was hint #1 in avoiding a knee-jerk reaction.
> >
> > I took a factual event & reported in such a way that one would ...
> > basicly over react. You "fell" for the bait, young man. <g>
> >
> > Those wearing the turbans are actually Sri Lankans.
> > The Hijackers are generally "classified" as Islamic/Arabian.
> > BIG difference.
> > You "assumed" I was making an ignorant, red-neck, RACIST generalization
> > about "rag-heads".
> >
> > Not one word in my post was actually racist, prejudgemental or alluding to
> > racial superiority.
> >
> > BTW... I try to have a "nice day" every day.
> > Thanks for your concern. <g>
> >
>
>--
>"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
>fears it is true." -J. Robert
>Oppenheimer
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