Hi Bruce, I understand. I grew up in Colorado Springs. About a mile away from Garden of the Gods with Pikes Peak and the front range looming large from the back yard. While it's a beautiful city and the mountains are beautiful, I don't think most shots taken from that childhood back yard would be particularly good photographs, even though the overall scene ,feeling, ambience, and memories are pleasant.
To get a good shot I'd have to go about .5 to 1.5 miles away to find a composition where the lay of the land and the natural elements worked in a way that I liked. Hope I didn't come across as uppity somehow. Tom C. >From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty >Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:59:35 -0800 > >Hello Tom, > >I appreciate your comments. Feedback is always good. This may be an >interesting case because of familiarity. Having grown up in this >valley, I am very familiar with the mountain scenes there. I have >shown this to others who live in this area and have gotten positive >responses. But those who haven't aren't familiar don't particularly >like it. This could certainly be a case of expectations. Thanks so >much for putting your feelings into words and sharing them with me. > >-- >Bruce > > >Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 11:19:33 AM, you wrote: > >TC> I have to ask what you're going to do with the photo. It documents >that you >TC> were there, but would you hang it on a wall? Would it be the kind of >photo >TC> that's saleable? Not that the last point matters that much, but what >are >TC> you trying to achieve? I know the mountains around Salt Lake are >beautiful >TC> and that was likely the motivatotion to press the shutter release. > >TC> I feel those elements distract from the grandeur of the mountains. Not >that >TC> there shouldn't or couldn't be other elements, but these, IMO, are >placed >TC> incorrectly to make it a pleasing photo. There can be foreground trees >but >TC> at least a portion of it here is out of focus with the ugly leaf >hanging on >TC> the left. I realize you shot from where you were in this instance, but >the >TC> road and chain link fence does nothing to make it a pretty picture. > >TC> IMO, majestic mountains often don't need any context and adding it can >TC> detract from their sublime beauty. > >TC> I'm not trying to be critical, just giving you the feedback you >requested. >TC> I realize you were probably not out on a serious photo-taking >expedition, >TC> just out for a walk maybe... but if your main subject was the same and >you >TC> had a different vantage point where you could cleanly incorporate other >TC> natural elements, while excluding the unnatural, I think it would >benefit. > >TC> Tom C. > > > >>From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >>Subject: Re: PESO - Mountain Majesty > >>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 10:56:11 -0800 > >> > >>It will be good to hear from others to see how they feel. FWIW, I > >>like the elements that seem to bother you. I have shot those > >>mountains without nothing around them and there is no perspective to > >>get a feel for them. They just look like a mountain of some sort. > >> > >>Thanks for your candid comments. > >> > >>-- > >>Bruce > >> > >> > >>Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 10:24:23 AM, you wrote: > >> > >>ft> On 1/3/07, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Standing down in the flat valley really gives these mountains a >sense > >> >> of power. Taken in Utah. > >> >> > >> >> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld > >> >> ISO 100, 1/350 sec @ F/11 > >> >> > >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_01.htm > >> >> > >> > >>ft> I'm not sure that I'm as thrilled with this one as I am with most of > >>ft> your other work, Bruce. > >> > >>ft> A couple of things that bother me: > >> > >>ft> 1) The tree in the mid-ground on the left is about the same >apparent > >>ft> height as the mountain - it lessens the impact of the massiveness of > >>ft> the mountain, IMHO. > >> > >>ft> 2) The dark tree in the foreground seems to be "touching" the tree > >>ft> mentioned in point one. I'm distracted from the main subject > >>ft> (presumabely the mountain) as I ascertain what tree is which. I >don't > >>ft> mind photos in which there's a lot going on, but with this one, all > >>ft> this only takes away from the impact of the main subject, without > >>ft> adding any meaningful narrative. > >> > >>ft> 3) The dark trunk upper left is a distraction. > >> > >>ft> But, maybe it's just me... > >> > >>ft> cheers, > >>ft> frank > >> > >> > >>ft> -- > >>ft> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>[email protected] > >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

