My turn to say "Interesting".

Ever since I really got seriously interested in photography, in the late 
80's, I've felt it was a great melding of my technical bent with my creative 
side.  As a software developer, I tend to be technical and creative, but the 
outlet for my creativity is often not very fulfilling.  A program or piece 
of code is not something I can easily display or share with others.

In the practice of photography, I definitely fall more into the "artsy" 
side.  I appreciate and strive to understand the technical aspects but it 
became readily apparent  that a technically perfect photograph is not 
synonomous with a pleasing photograph.

In shooting I tend to look at the following three in this order - 1) 
subject, 2) composition, 3) technical control of the camera and exposure.

Tom C.


>From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)
>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:16:59 -0500
>
>Interesting.
>
>I consider myself a photographer - period. Although I tend to enjoy nature
>photography the most.
>In my own time I try to capture outdoor images in a real, maybe considered
>"artsy" mode.
>This has only been true for the last 10 -12 years. While I've had a camera
>all my life since early teens, I wasn't very good in the artsy area. I was
>mostly capturing family moments & recording places we visited.
>.
>That all changed about 10 years ago when I took my first outdoor workshop.
>(highly, highly recommended).
>
>About 19 yrs ago my job dictated I record forensic evidence related to
>automotive product litigation.
>Since becoming more artsy, I then started to apply some artsy influence in
>my forensic photography.
>A few years ago, while preparing for a trial in a hotel meeting room, some
>passersby happened to look in saw some of my forensic images & inquired if
>they were for sale! These were highly abstract images of fracture surfaces
>of some automotive components.
>
>Kenneth Waller
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cory Papenfuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Subject: Re: Introduction (Raw work flow)
>
>
> > Watch out here as an elitist snob... I have been very careful to
> > qualify any of my potentially denigrating comments WRT "photographer" 
>vs.
> > "technician."  I personally think of it as the difference between a
> > "technical photographer" and an "artsy photographer."  I am very much 
>the
> > former, but try to learn more of the latter as I go.  The majority of
> > photographers that I know of (including most of this list) lean more
> > towards the artsy side.  Both are necessary to some degree for good
> > photographs.
> >
> >  The snap-n-shooter who fires away endlessly and never goes of
> > automatic idiot mode is neither.  The cursed soul like me aspires to 
>have
> > a creative eye while perfecting the technical aspects.  The majority
> > seem to learn just enough technical aspects as necessary to exercise 
>their
> > creative eye.
> >
> >  In the limiting case, I've heard it argued as to whether or not
> > some of the HEAVILY manipulated digital photographs should be considered
> > photographs at all.  Maybe, maybe not.  Should they be considered
> > art.  Certainly... IMO.  Everyone chooses how far on either side they 
>wish
> > to go.
> >
> > -Cory
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> >> Well, let me then amend my post: I think he's more a technician than a
> >> photographer concerned with the aesthetics and creativity involved in
> >> photographing a subject.  I believe Mr.Papanfuss has stated that as 
>well,
> >> at least to some degree.
> >>
> >> Further - and this just may be me - I don't recall ever seeing any of 
>his
> >> photographs posted here, although he does talk a lot of technical 
>stuff.
> >>
> >  I've posted a few.
> >
> >> IMO, one may record a scene and be considered a photographer by some -
> >> and
> >> maybe just holding a camera and pushing the button makes one a
> >> photographer
> >> - but I think there's more to it than that, that some creativity beyond
> >> just recording a scene and looking for an accurate color reproduction
> >> contributes to the making of a photographer.  But then, I have often 
>been
> >> called an elitist snob
> >>
> >> Of course, Rob, you're very technically oriented, and might that not
> >> color
> >> your opinions just as my limited technical expertise may color mine?
> >>
> >> Shel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> [Original Message]
> >>> From: Digital Image Studio
> >>
> >>> On 11/01/07, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>> And how did you, or do you, deal with B&W?
> >>>>
> >>>> Youir comments suggest that you're not a photographer but some kind 
>of
> >>>> technician.
> >>>
> >>> I'm a bit confused and surprised at some of the comments relating to
> >>> Cory's posts. Whether somebody is making photographs to create art or
> >>> records surely they are still a photographer if they control how or
> >>> what is being photographed?
>
>
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