I'm not calling anybody lazy or incompetent. 

But I can't help thinking that you Godfrey, who are a skilled photographer,
are able to easily work around most the limitations in the older lenses. You
are able to focus accurately without AF. You are able to learn your lenses
to the point where you know where their peak performance is. You are able to
expose properly on your own without fancy metering. 

I'm not half as skilled as you are. I probably never will be. But I know one
thing. It is not the quality of the old lenses I have and use (BTW, it is
not many) that is the main limitation in my photography. No, that's me, and
me alone. 

This said. I can see myself gradually building two lens kits. One for
everyday photography, built up with mainly new DA lenses. 
And one, with old lenses for more specialised tasks. Macro is one example. I
don't think I need AF and the other sophisticated features for macro work. 

But that's me. You think in other directions, and I'm totally ok with that. 

What I don't understand is why people are so aggressively defending their
position in this debate. It is just tools ;-)


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

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Godfrey DiGiorgi
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Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday?


On Feb 8, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Cory Papenfuss wrote:

>>> All of my comments made in this thread regarding
>>> APS and FF lenses (legacy?) were optical quality related
>>> to format (sensor) size,  not feature set
>>> issues. That is another unrelated matter altogether.
>>
>> Bullshit. It's part and parcel of what the lens can do.
>>
>       So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a
> new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality?   
> The
> improved contrast of having autofocus?  The increase of sharpness  
> due to
> not having an auto-aperture?  Bullshit.
>
>       If you're too damn lazy to use manual lenses, just say it.  It has
> nothing to do with picture quality, except in the context of operator
> error/incompetence/laziness.

Bullshit seems to be the word this morning.

If you want to buy a camera and take advantage of half of what you  
paid for by using old lenses on it, that's your choice. No question  
that you can do some nice work if you know what you're doing.

But calling someone who wants to take advantage of pattern evaluative  
metering, linked AE and focus point, MTF prioritized exposure  
metering, automatic recognition of lens focal length for image  
stabilization, improved flare control, better image resolution, high  
speed/accuracy focusing with fine manual control, etc etc, lazy or  
incompetent is truly bullshit.

All these things can add up to improved picture quality when  
exploited to advantage. For either an amateur or a professional  
photographer too. There's no doubt that high quality photographs do  
not *require* all these capabilities, but they can help.

You seem to always want to choose doing things the hardest way, Corey.
I don't see any evidence that your choice poses an advantage.

Godfrey

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