Hello Pancho,

My understanding of the move by all camera manufacturers away from TTL
is that the reflectivity of the sensor/filter in front of it, made it
problematic at best to read from that surface.  Every manufacturer has
found it necessary to pre-flash and read to set proper exposure rather
than meter on the surface during exposure.  If my *istD was any
indicator, the Old TTL system was not too good.  I don't think there
was any major conspiracy to force us to buy new flashes.

Nikon has been even worse going from TTL to D-TTL to I-TTL.  So
incomparability is even a bigger problem - especially if you had a
flash for the middle version.

-- 
Bruce


Monday, March 5, 2007, 2:33:46 PM, you wrote:

PH> Cory,

PH> this is one point which really sucks in terms of backward compatibility.

PH> TTL flash ability was one of the reasons to replace the K100D with an
PH> *istDS, in spite of the silly name (other main reason was the finder).

PH> I use it with my Metz 40MZ-2 (SCA 3000), Metz 32CT2 (SCA 300), and will
PH> use it with my AF280T, Metz 45CL-4 and even my Braun Ultrablitz 38M (SCA
PH> 300, too). I even can dial in flash correction, and it works fine,
PH> giving very nice fill-flash effects if desired. What even sucks more
PH> about P-TTL is that it won't work with pre-A lenses, opposite to TTL.
PH> With an external flash, at least, I can use my K lenses and get correct
PH> TTL exposure, even with correction factors. This won't work with the
PH> crappy bulitin P-TTL flash.

PH> The only reason I see why Pentax dropped TTL flash compatibility is to
PH> sell new flashes, at the expense of really annoying long term Pentax
PH> customers. But I do have a bunch of flashes and feel no need for another
PH> one.
PH> This sucks, and I see no reason to buy any newer body which lacks such
PH> easy-to-implement features.

PH> My MZ-S (well, since last week both of them) can handle both TTL and
PH> P-TTL flash. Apart from that, it has a feature with was strongly hyped
PH> in a K10D review I read lately: MTF program curves. Yes, someone raves
PH> about a really old Pentax feature, "rediscovered".

PH> Oh, and my MZ-Sn even can do program shift (which could have been easily
PH> implemented in *istDS, methinks, maybe as a feature to be enabled by
PH> advanced users in the personal settings), and have that aperture thingy,
PH> hehehe...

PH> Just my 2C,
PH> Pancho


PH> cbwaters schrieb:
>> After reading some posts a while back about the possibility of wrecking the
>> K10's flash circuit by using older flash units, I have been reluctant to
>> mount my 280T or 200T to the camera.
>> I looked at the new "digital ready" flashes online but I have really worn
>> thin the good graces of the Finance Mistress with the purchases of late.
>> The only remaining path was to ask Pentax if I could safely use my old
>> flashes.
>> 
>> Here's their response:
>> "The K10D is not compatible with a TTL flash in automatic mode. The
>> recommended flashes are P-TTL types such as the AF360FGZ or the AF540FGZ.
>> The AF220T and AF280T flashes can definitely be used on the new K10D,
>> however it will only work in manual mode."
>> 
>> Now you know.
>> 
>> Cory




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