In terms of a machine middle men are the lubrication that makes the system work. Like oil or graphite in a machine. Societies without them soon create them. By the way the retailer, if not the producer, is a middleman. Without middlemen there would be only producers and consumers.
mike wilson wrote: >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2007/03/13 Tue AM 12:47:52 GMT >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow >> >> If that's all the "middle men" did you'd be right. They do a hell of a >> lot more than that. The view you express was discredited 150 years ago. >> > > What else can they do? You have a producer and a retailer, who could be one > and the same if the circumstances are right. The only point to anyone else > is to move the product from the producer to the retailer. The majority of > hand-picked produce is for direct consumption, without processing. Food for > processing is generally picked by machine, as appearance is less important. > > >> mike wilson wrote: >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> In a message dated 3/12/2007 7:47:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>>> Er, no. The crops would be slightly more expensive but would still be >>>> there. >>>> >>>> ============ >>>> Citizens, on the whole, won't pick crops. >>>> >>>> In California, the biggest pool of housecleaners, caregivers, gardeners, >>>> and >>>> casual day laborers (mainly construction), is also illegals. No one else >>>> will do the work. In my immediate area there are a lot of Tongans filling >>>> those >>>> posts. Not all CA illegals are Latino. Any country that has a depressed >>>> economy will have some illegals in California. The average stay for an >>>> illegal is >>>> two years. They make their money and go home.(I saw the results of study >>>> once, though admittedly a study was probably hard to do.) I used to live >>>> in an >>>> area with a check cashing place that I used. That area also had a lot of >>>> illegals -- they used the check cashing place to send money home each >>>> week. It also >>>> had a phone where they could call home if they paid enough. >>>> >>>> Besides we have to compete with places like Mexico that grow crops where >>>> the >>>> pickers are paid squat. (Not to mention that small CA farmers, as in not >>>> agribusiness, operate on small margins). And other foreign countries were >>>> the >>>> pay is terrible. Competing with third world countries is just a fact of >>>> life >>>> now. >>>> >>>> If decent wages had to be paid for all crop picking, decent enough for no >>>> illegals being hired, most of CA's remaining agricultural would crash >>>> (despite >>>> agribusiness and some crops that don't have to be picked by hand. There >>>> are >>>> many hand picked crops here.). In fact, several small economies in CA >>>> would >>>> crash. >>>> >>>> >>> I saw some figures recently that suggested that the labour cost involved >>> in crop picking was somewhat less than 1/10th of the retail price at the >>> most. You could double the wages and the retail price would only go up >>> marginally. Most cost is added by the middlemen who do nothing but move >>> the stuff around. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> What is and what "should be" are two different things. >>>> >>>> Marnie aka Doe >>>> >>>> <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free >>>> email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >>>> http://www.aol.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf >> thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam > > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
