CSS isn't patented. It's a very simple 56-bit encryption that can be brute forced in realtime on an embedded system using 3 lines of perl code conveniently available off of numerous T-Shirts (thus making the code protected speech under the 1st Ammendment in the US and therefore not subject to the DMCA).
The protection on CSS was entirely by way of only letting license holders see the code. It was so weak that it was first cracked by a 15 year old kid (and brute-forced shortly afterwards). I'm surprised the big Studios haven't sued the DVD consortium into the ground over how weak the 'unbreakable' DVD encryption turned out to be. -Adam drew wrote: > As i understand it the part of the player that is protected is the CSS > (Content Scrambling System), this is patented technology of which the > region coding system is part. If you wish your player to play encrypted > DVD's you have to pay the DVD forum to use the CSS and agree to the > region coding. As JCO says, without this you cannot use the DVD logo or > claim it is a DVD player (the DVD standard includes CSS). > You can go ahead and build a region free player that will not play > encrypted DVD's and sell it to whomever you like. But if you wish it to > play commercial DVD's you have to pay the DVD Forum to use CSS and agree > to region coding. > > I have no idea how all the manufactures that make region free players > get round this, but it seems they do. Anyone know? > > Cheers, > > Drew. > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> cant you read english? I qualified it with "commercially" >> >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Norm Baugher >> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:43 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT - for those of you who have DVD >> equipthatcanplayPALsystemDVD's >> >> >> I can put one together in my garage and sell it to my fucking neighbor - >> >> what violation of the law am I committing and what agreements am I >> breaking? Norm (Hell is the impossibility of reason...) >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> NOPE, I am pretty sure if you want to commercially sell >>> DVD players you have to get a licensing agreement. >>> Ever see that little "DVD" logo? Guess what that means.. >>> jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of Norm Baugher >>> >>> >>> If I make a DVD player, I don't have to agree to shit. I can sell it >>> to >>> whoever the hell I want to. >>> Norm >>> (who believes some people slept in and missed the day they taught >> logic) >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> >>>> I disagree because there are DVD hardware >>>> and software licensing issues and these >>>> region codings issues are part of those >>>> licensing AGREEMENTS. >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>>> Of Mark Roberts >>>> >>>> Tom C wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't think it's a legal issue. It's an issue of how the industry >>>>> has decided to market to us. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> This is true. The movie industry has convinced the makers of DVD >>>> players to cooperate with the "region" scheme (for the most part), >>>> and >>>> >>> >>>> likewise the major retailers, because they need each other to a large >>>> extent. >>>> >>>> The convergent interests of these organizations make it beneficial >>>> for them to follow the region code scheme. >>>> >>>> Smaller businesses like world-import.com are willing to forego the >>>> cooperation of the movie industry so they're free to sell >>>> multi-region >>>> >>> >>>> players. >>>> >>>> The law doesn't enter into it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

