The latest sensors seem to have a 17x13.5mm size as opposed to 18x13.5  
which is closer to 5:4 than 4:3.

Adam Maas wrote:
> I think you'll find that the 4/3rds system uses a 4:3 sensor, not a 5:4 
> sensor. Hence the name.
>
> While an interesting idea, it solves a problem that doesn't exist 
> (excessive cost of larger sensors) and never delivered on its other 
> promise (smaller lenses, which Pentax has cornered the market in)
>
> -Adam
>
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> Actually the 4/3 system uses a much smaller sensor than the 
>> Pentax/Sony/Nikon APS-C equivalent sensor cameras use.  It's the 
>> standard promulgated by Kodak/Olympus/Panasonic/Leica. To get the 
>> equivalent AOV in 35mm terms you multiply focal length by 2 not just by 
>> 1.5, and the sensor is a 5:4 aspect ratio as opposed to the 35mm/APS-C 
>> 3:2.  I thought this system was a bad idea when it was first described, 
>> (based on the planned sensor size), and I haven't seen anything to make 
>> me like it more.  Though the build quality on some of the cameras is 
>> impressive, image quality seems to be what could be charitably described 
>> as relatively noisy at high ISO, and every view finder I've seen on 
>> these cameras can only be described as "squinty".
>>
>> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>     
>>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> It was never indicated that the K1D would be full
>>>> frame. It will merely be an upgrade from the K10D,
>>>> which suits me just fine.
>>>> Paul
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Yeah, that's why I said "hypothetical" FF sensor.
>>>
>>> I'm hoping if they do release a K1D that it is FF as
>>> that's the only thing that would really get me excited
>>> at this point. I won't buy another 4/3 camera unless
>>> it could be shown to be a huge improvement over the
>>> current models.
>>>
>>> -Brendan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>>  -------------- Original message
>>>> ----------------------
>>>> From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Pentax To Sell Tokyo HQ, Quit Low-Profit Ops
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> To
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> Lift Corp  Value
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> TOKYO (Nikkei)--Pentax Corp. plans to sell its
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Tokyo headquarters  and 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> withdraw from less profitable businesses under
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> strategies the camera maker 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> has 
>>>>>>> crafted to block a takeover bid by optical
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> glass
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> manufacturer Hoya Corp. , 
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> The 
>>>>>>> Nikkei learned Wednesday. 
>>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that gives the news  a slightly
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>> different
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> slant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that makes a heck of a lot more sense.  I
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> can't
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> imagine the 645D would be 
>>>>>> particularly profitable, and even though I'm
>>>>>> disappointed in its demise, I 
>>>>>> can't say I'm surprised.  Of all the pro studio
>>>>>> photographers I met while 
>>>>>> working at Reed's (many dozens, at least), maybe
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> two
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> of them used digital 
>>>>>> medium format.  One only used it because he was
>>>>>> close friends with our 
>>>>>> Hasselblad rep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While digital medium format is a nice idea and
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> has a
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> few image quality 
>>>>>> benefits, I just don't think it makes sense from
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> a
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> cost point of view.  
>>>>>> Unfortunately for us Pentaxians, Pentax needs to
>>>>>> stick with what will make them 
>>>>>> money if they want to stay independant (and keep
>>>>>> their medical devices business 
>>>>>> at the same time).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This probably means the aperture simulator will
>>>>>> never show up again, even in a 
>>>>>> hypothetical K1D.  Pentax needs all the
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>> new-sales
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>>> revenue it can get right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I wonder if a K1D with it's hypothetical FF sensor
>>>>> will even be a reality now. If they are focusing
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> on
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> beginners and advanced amateurs then I doubt a FF
>>>>> camera is on the horizion soon, if ever. Perhaps
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> when
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> the switch to FF becomes the norm in DSLR
>>>>> manufacturing maybe, but I wonder if Pentax will
>>>>> survive that long. This is interesting news
>>>>> considering the rumor posted the other day (from
>>>>> another forum) about the "new" cameras coming out
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> in
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> the fall.
>>>>>
>>>>> If they have not had an R&D program running
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> parallel
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> with the development of the 645D for a FF DSLR
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> then I
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> would call this a big blunder on their part. A
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> full
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> frame DSLR would sell in huge numbers vs. a MF
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> digicam
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> anyday...even if it were a piece of crap. I would
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> buy
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> one today as I'm learning to not much like the 4/3
>>>>> system. I just don't see the quality in the
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> smaller
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> sensor even if I enjoy using the K10D. So, I would
>>>>> dump it in a hot minute for a FF camera that I can
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> use
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> all of my existing lenses on.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point, I'm really wondering what is going
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> on
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> at Pentax. It may very well be a while before the
>>>>> reality of what is happening will be known for
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> sure.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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