Hey we agree. :-) Tom C.
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Exactly my point. How one edits depends on the use and the situation. >Obviously, one should be most critical in editing a portfolio. >Paul > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Paul, > > > > Yes, but that's not a portfolio per se. It's a a paid shoot where the >buyer > > basically has the 'right' to see all the material generated. It's not >like > > presenting a portfolio on a cold call, where one had better show only >their > > best. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > >Subject: Re: Looking at Pictures > > >Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 23:09:54 -0400 > > > > > >Working in the ad biz, I've seen the full results of shoots from top > > >pros. Believe me, they include plenty of clunkers. Very little > > >editing is done before the goods are delivered. Why? It's part and > > >parcel of getting your money's worth. When you pay 50 grand for a > > >two day shoot, you want to see the whole program. No one is perfect. > > >Every photographer produces some bad shots. > > >Paul > > >On May 9, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > > > > > > >> Depends a lot on your purpose. > > > > True. I believe we were talking about pro photogs not camera club > > > > members. > > > > > > > >> A commercial photographer can over edit and lose sales because > > > >> someone may > > > >> have liked those photos. > > > > True, but I would then contend that he hasn't got a good enough > > > > feel for his > > > > potential clients needs. > > > > > > > > Kenneth Waller > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: Looking at Pictures > > > > > > > > > > > >> Depends a lot on your purpose. A commercial photographer can over > > > >> edit > > > >> and lose sales because someone may have liked those photos. A fine > > > >> art > > > >> photographer needs to be more selective. A camera club member > > > >> needs to > > > >> make sure his photos look like everyone else's in the club. This > > > >> list is > > > >> more like a camera club than not, but is a bit more open minded. > > > >> > > > >> -graywolf > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Tom C wrote: > > > >>>>> They've learned to largely relegate their emotions, prejudices, > > > >>>>> and > > > >>>>> personal attachments to the back >seat when deciding which > > > >>>>> images are > > > >>>>> worthy of display and may enjoy potential success. > > > >>>> I call that critical editing, IMO one of the best ways to > > > >>>> improve my > > > >>>> photography. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Kenneth Waller > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> That's my feelings. One never becomes perfect at this but I find >it > > > >>> coming > > > >>> full circle now. I can look throught the viewfinder and think, > > > >>> "No that's > > > >>> not it", or "Yes, maybe this it". > > > >>> > > > >>> To tell the truth, for almost any image I see displayed on this > > > >>> or any > > > >>> other > > > >>> list that is widely panned, it's the fact that it did not receive > > > >>> critical > > > >>> editting by the photographer, or if an attempt was made, it still > > > >>> slipped > > > >>> through. > > > >>> > > > >>> In short it's very often the ability to say, "I took this picture > > > >>> and it > > > >>> sucks", instead of "This picture is good because I took it". > > > >>> > > > >>> Tom C. > > > >>> > > > >>> Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > >-- > > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >[email protected] > > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > [email protected] > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

