Thank you to you all who has helped me on this. An order is placed at 
amazon. Two Lightroom books and two Elements books. I also ordered Elements 
5 (the program). I lost the program in a format provess. The CD should be 
here somewhere, but seem to have vanished into cyberspace.

Tim Typo
Mostly Harmless

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: What to read for a PS phobic? (Was:Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2)


I'm prepering a shopping cart at amazon. The plan is to send it when I have
the lens money in the bank.

First I need something light on Elements. So I'm leaning against Scott
Kelby, The Photoshop Elements 5 Book for Digital Photographers. The reviews
indicates that this is light humourous reading. A light approach on the
subject seems good for my PS fobia.

Me and Lightroom gets along very well, but to read up on it might be
productive. So there I'm debating two candidates Kelby og Evening. I could
by both, but that sounds like overkill at the moment.

The workflow book by Bruce Frasier has been recomended several times. The
one thing that is holding me back, is that I'm a bit scared by the idea of
geting Computer Program Bying Adiction by reading about the big brother in
the PS family. I want to standardise on Elements for a while, and see how we
gets along. The cheap part of me says I will do very well, with Lightroom as
a frontend. But I'm weak against temptations.

Back to Kelby's Elements book.  Some reviews indicates that it is too light.
Are there other better alternatives, that are not too detailed trigging my
PS phobia? A search at amazon gives too many results. I'm not able to sort
out what to buy from there. I can't buy them all ;-)

Tim Typo
Mostly Harmless

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From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2


I have two of Fraser's books.  The only things wrong with them are the
titles.  They both refer specifically to Photoshop CS/CS2, giving the
impreession that they aren't much use for Elements or earlier versions of
Photoshop.

I'm still using Photoshop 6 and Elements 1 and both books have changed the
way I use those programs.  There are parts of the books that are CS/CS2
specific but there's so much more in them of more general application.

I highly recommend them (Real World Image Sharpening and Real World Camera
Raw) - especially the one on sharpening.

Cheers

Brian

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia




Quoting Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Unitentionally I was refering to a private joke by telling you
> about my ONE
> BOOK. Rather stupid by me refering to something you couldnt posibly
>
> understand.
> I might as well let you in on the joke. It refered a little story
> about a
> couple of brothers who inhereted a fine book collection. They
> turned it
> down, because they had a book.
>
> Thank you Godfrey, for not giving up on me on this topic ;-)
> I'm selling a lens now, a dustcollector. I'm talking about 400USD,
> so I
> might turn the cash into some of the recomended reading.
>
> Tim Typo
> Mostly Harmless
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:25 PM
> Subject: Re: PESO - Heavy Weather 2
>
>
>
> On May 8, 2007, at 12:30 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:
>
> > Yeah. I've heared about books ;-)
> >
> > I have one about Elements, Elements in a snap. Total crap,
> written
> > by a
> > computer geek. A lot details, but nothing giving me a general
> > understanding.
> > A lot of how's, but no why's.
>
> It's unfair to consider one book that didn't help you as being
> indicative of all authors' work.
>
> Bruce Fraser/David Blattner, Scott Kelby and Martin Evening have
> all
> published well-written books on using Photoshop CS2 from a
> photographer's perspective (several at least for Scott Kelby).
> Some
> parts are technique oriented ("do this to get that result"), some
> parts have a more 'reference'/theory perspective. Which would be
> best
> for your particular learning is hard to say.
>
> I have a couple of Scott's books, one by Martin on Lightroom, and
> all
> of Bruce Fraser's books. In particular, I find Bruce Fraser very
> illuminating and interesting. I don't read any of them
> exhaustively
> in a sitting, I tend to skim and look up specific things that I
> want
> more clarity on. I often look up how to do something, read a bit
> to
> get some context, and then experiment with the ideas having the
> book
> open on my desk.
>
> Godfrey
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