mike wilson wrote:
>> From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/05/22 Tue PM 12:29:53 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Getty claiming copyright on National Archives images
>>
>> This came up on another list and I thought people here would like to  
>> know about this major scam.
>>
>> It seems that Getty Images learned a few years ago that they could  
>> buy 4 X 5 negatives of images from the US National Archives for $ 5  
>> each.  They bought thousands.  Now they are selling these same images  
>> through their stock agency and claiming copyright on them.  The vast  
>> majority of the images in the National Archives were taken by  
>> government employees and are public domain.
>>
>> Here's just one example for anyone skeptical.  Getty image: 3090980
>>
>> On the getty website it says, "American Pilots November 1943:  
>> American pilots leaning against the tail of a F6F Hellcat on board  
>> the USS Lexington after a raid on the Marshall Islands. (Photo by MPI/ 
>> Getty Images)"
>>
>>   http://preview.tinyurl.com/2825kt
>>
>> Now the same image from the US National Archives.
>>
>> To locate the same image, it is a bit more complicated. First go to  
>> the NARA ARC search engine:
>>
>> http://arcweb.archives.gov/arc/basic_search.jsp
>>
>> click the large yellow oval that says, "SEARCH" and you will see a  
>> search page. In the blank box at the top enter the ARC number 520896  
>> (just enter the numbers only) and click on the GO button to the right.
>>
>> National Archives ARC: 520896 It also says Local Identifier: 80- 
>> G-470985 (this is the National Archives number for that image. The 80- 
>> G says WWII and US Navy PHOTOGRPHER, other photographs are NOT in  
>> this category, only ones shot by US Navy personal.  The top page says  
>> Digital copy available, that line is a link, click it. The next page  
>> has a thumbnail and the text block starts with, "Pilots leaning  
>> across F6F on board the USS Lexington (CV-16) after shooting down 17  
>> out of 20 Japanese planes heading for Tarawa." THIS block of text is  
>> a link to the next page so Click that link..  This page is where the  
>> truth lies.  At the bottom it lists "Steichen, Edward, Photographer"   
>> If you do not know, Edward Steichen was a Commander in the US Navy  
>> and headed the Navy's photographic team.  He was a US Government  
>> employee and as such ALL of his images (during his service) are in  
>> the Public Domain.  This is noted earlier on this page by saying,  
>> "Access Restrictions: Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted"
>>
>> As public domain images, these images belong to US, the public.   
>> Getty, or anyone else, has absolutely no right to claim copyright to  
>> these images and sell them.
>>
>> We need to spread the word on this, and any of Getty's customers who  
>> have paid to license such images should demand an immediate and full  
>> refund.
>>
>>     
>
> Not to defend the money grubbers but if it says "Access Restrictions: 
> Unrestricted Use Restrictions: Unrestricted"
> what precisely are they doing wrong?
>   
There's no problem with selling the images, but applying their own 
copyright would seem to be a problem in an item where their only 
creative input was cropping out the frame edge.
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