The major limiter on population growth will be clean water, unless of 
course we find an unlimited supply of energy, with enough energy nothing 
is impossible.

Adam Maas wrote:
> No, sustainability is simply one of the major variables that governs the 
> supply part of supply and demand.
>
> -Adam
> Who will note that most natural resources are either renewable or 
> available in vast quantities far outstripping any reasonable projection 
> of our growth. The only major exception is petrochemicals.
>
>
> P. J. Alling wrote:
>   
>> That's a bullshit statement.  Sustainability is a myth.
>>
>>
>> William Robb wrote:
>>     
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "P. J. Alling"
>>> Subject: Re: Global warming was: The Nine-spotted
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Sadly most people don't seem to understand supply and demand.  It's all
>>>> a matter of cost.  When prices rise high enough for a commodity suitable
>>>> replacements are found, or if a less costly alternative exists the
>>>> substitution will begin if prices simply stay the same.  Oil was
>>>> substituted for Coal because total costs of using it for energy were
>>>> lower.  Something will be substituted for Oil when either of those two
>>>> conditions is met. It's quite likely that the US will go back to Coal
>>>> for a while, (the US is the Saudi Arabia of Coal), abet with new plants
>>>> being much cleaner than the old, but the price of Oil in real terms will
>>>> have to be much higher than it is now.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Supply and demand economic models aren't based on sustainability, and as a 
>>> consequence aren't based on intelligence.
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> No matter what is causing global warming, (and if it's man made, all the
>>>> CO2 models, flawed though they may be, show that cutting back on
>>>> emissions is way to late to make a difference in the short  to mid
>>>> term).  Rich societies have a much better chance of mitigating any
>>>> untoward effects of global temperature rises than poor ones, so given
>>>> that the changes are coming and we can't stop them, it's best to not do
>>>> anything that will make any societies poorer.  Unfortunately most if not
>>>> all of the prescriptions to "fix" global warming will do just that.
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I wouldn't have believed that the best advice a supposedly educated person 
>>> can give as a solution is to race hell bent for the precipice if I han't 
>>> read your post.
>>>
>>> William Robb 
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>     
>
>
>   


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