Correct, "inexpensive". That term came about back in the days when the norm was 
80mb drums. Four 20mb drives were much cheaper at only $20K or so. Nowadays, it 
usually means "independent".

Yes, Scott. There really is no "Redundant" in a raid-0. Big & fast, yes. 
Reliable, no. Should call it AIDS (Array of Independent Drives System). The pun 
tells it all, it does not have long to live <grin>.

In case anyone is interested I finally figured out just what that MTBF figure 
is. Not the number of hours the drive is designed to operate as most folks 
think*, but how many drives you can run and expect to have them fail on an 
average of one per hour.

Still I am interested in how often folks here have experienced hard-drive 
failure, and with which type of drive (IDE, SATA, SCSI, other), and anyone 
else's experience with RAID systems.



*Design life of a SCSI drive is 43,800 hours (5 years of 24/7 service). IDE and 
SATA drives are about 1/2 of that.
  
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Scott Loveless wrote:
> graywolf wrote:
>> Seems like folks here have a lot of hard drive problems, mine are very old 
>> and never a glitch. I did kick a drive when it was running once and it 
>> crashed (long story), since that was a 100 MEGAbyte drive so you can tell 
>> how long ago that was.
>>
>> And then there are all you people saying your RAID crashed. ?????
>>
>> Just what type of RAID are folks on the list using? Raid zero is asking for 
>> it, one better have a great back up scheme. Raid-1 or raid-10 should have 
>> all the data on the other drives for a restore. Raid-5 should be fine unless 
>> more than one drive goes at the same time. 
>>
>> Of course I suppose that RAID has become a buzz word and many people are 
>> calling JBOD (just-a-bunch-of-drives, what I currently running) RAID which 
>> it is not. Anyway anyone who needs a computer tech's help should not be 
>> running anything more complicated than raid-1 (mirrored drives).
>>
>> Anyhow, as I am soon going to be setting up a raid-5 array using secondhand 
>> drives (first time setting one up for my own use), I would like to know just 
>> what kind of problems folks have been having.
>>
>> And now the test, what did the acronym RAID originally mean?
>>  
>>
>>   
> RAID means redundant array of inexpensive disks, or something like that 
> I think.  My only experience with RAID is RAID 0 (which isn't really 
> RAID, IMHO).  One of the two SCSI drives refused to post one day.  Lost 
> it all.  Doh!
> 

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