And there is such a thing as a daylight loading developing tank. I have one 
made 
by Kodak. Never have found instructions for loading it and about half my tries 
resulted in a destroyed roll of film <sigh>. I rather think it was not designed 
for modern super thin film.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> To develop film you need only a tank,  reels, and a changing bag. You can do 
> it anywhere. The changing bag allows you to work in a lit room. Printing 
> requires much more, including an enlarger, an easel, a focusing magnifier, 
> and trays. But used darkroom equipment is very inexpensive these days.
> Paul
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Glen Tortorella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Whoa, $0.60 a roll--that beats the heck out of $16.95 (plus tax)!   
>> Unfortunately, I have never developed a roll of film.  What equipment  
>> would I need?  I do not have a "darkroom" per se.  I have a  
>> basement.  Would I be able to develop at night in my basement?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Glen
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2007, at 10:48 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>>> Glen,
>>>
>>> Mailers are a cheap option for getting E6 slide film processed.  
>>> They are not economical for B&W. For cheap processing of Fuji  
>>> Acros, do it yourself. I recommend Agfa or A&O Rodinal at 1:50  
>>> dilution for 12 minutes at 20C, 30 seconds initial agitation with 2  
>>> inversions per minute. Should run you about $0.60 or less per roll  
>>> (including stop & fix) if you 1-shot the dev and reuse stop & fix.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>
>>>> Recently, I have gotten some rolls of non-C41 B&W, some Fuji Acros
>>>> 100.  I see you mention mailers here, indicating that they are
>>>> cheaper.  What (or who) do you recommend for developing these
>>>> prints?  I would like to be economical--but get good quality--and a
>>>> mailer would be fine.  The mailers I had been looking at, though
>>>> (about a year or so ago), seemed rather expensive (and one had to
>>>> send several rolls in order to save what seemed like only a small
>>>> amount of money).  Please let me know what you think.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 7, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John Sessoms wrote:
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> I think Adam is correct. The popularity of the disposals is
>>>>>>> waning. Most cellphones can take a better picture than a plastic
>>>>>>> lens, fixed focus disposable. And consumers will eventually
>>>>>>> figure that out. But films that are applicable to fine art
>>>>>>> photography will continue to be available indefinitely, although
>>>>>>> at higher prices.
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> May be. All I know is what I see, and I'm getting nine disposable
>>>>>> 35mm
>>>>>> cameras for every one 35mm roll of film. About half the 35mm rolls
>>>>>> I do
>>>>>> get are chromogenic B&W film and I get the occasional disposable
>>>>>> camera
>>>>>> loaded with that film.
>>>>> Remember that you aren't going to be seeing almost all B&W film  
>>>>> (Since
>>>>> that's mostly self-developed) and much E6 (since mailers are so much
>>>>> cheaper). C41 is for the most part a consumer product, and that's  
>>>>> what
>>>>> you're seeing. When the disposables evaporate (and that's coming),
>>>>> consumer film is dead.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd also say about half the disposable cameras are "No-Name"
>>>>>> cameras in
>>>>>> cardboard sleeves. When you open them they frequently turn out  
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>> recycled disposables, held closed with electricians tape and
>>>>>> loaded with
>>>>>> whatever film the manufacturer bought at bulk rates.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Not shocking, the no-name's are a fair bit cheaper.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>
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