I agree. If acceptance is left purely to a judging panel, then we can expect the regular subjectivity. If it's based on a general vote of others, then it's also suspect, as the general public doesn't know hooey about good photography.
I'd like to know the qualifications of the judges, myself. It is totally possible photos are being judged by people with no other particular qualifications than that they work for Pentax, which is totally within their bailiwick, just not reassuring. If the gallery is designed to be a high-quality gallery, then all images should clearly be outstanding. If it's not designed to be that, then the result will be something less. (Stating the obvious). Tom C. >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery "Resignation" >Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:45:35 +0000 > >It's a personal competition, but you're not competing against others. For >the accepted image count to be a score, everyone would have to make the >same number of submissions. I recall one PDML member saying he was >submitting between five and ten shots every day. That obviously will skew >the curve. Which is fine, but that's why it's not a mine vs. yours >competition. At least that's what I think. And in the end, none of it >matters a hoot:-). >Paul > -------------- Original message ---------------------- >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Well, Robb, I'm not surprised that it's being viewed as a competition. > > If one chooses to consider the accepted image count as a 'score' > > against which one is competing, then it's a competition. Your choice. > > > > Jack > > --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jack Davis" > > > Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery "Resignation" > > > > > > > > > > No way it could be stated any better, Frank. > > > > Their not having anticipating a volume crunch is, however, hard to > > > > imagine. Could be they consider "accepted artist" voting a handy > > > > explanation..if needed. > > > > When 'proven' laudable work is summarily declined, incentive wanes. > > > > > > > > > > >> <snip> > > > >> > Actually I see any photographic competition as utterly > > > pointless. > > > >> <snip> > > > >> > > > >> I agree 100%! > > > >> > > > >> Funny thing is, I didn't see The Pentax Gallery as a competition. > > > I > > > >> thought that as long as the photos met a minimum standard, they > > > were > > > >> in, and it would be a cool place from which to show photos. I > > > didn't > > > >> see it as "grading" or "rating" photos, merely "accepting". > > > >> > > > >> I think it's that misconception that pisses me off most. I didn't > > > >> understand it as a competition at all, and clearly it is. I know > > > my > > > >> photos aren't all pretty or pleasing or spectacular, so really > > > they > > > >> don't stand a chance against some that are in the gallery, but I > > > have > > > >> to admit to feeling a bit stung when I saw some rather banal, > > > >> ordinary > > > >> photos that got accepted, while mine all got the boot. It may be > > > >> that > > > >> these other photos were accepted early, when there were far fewer > > > >> voters, and the gallery "needed" photos, but it certainly points > > > to a > > > >> glaring inconsitency in the acceptance procedure, IMHO. > > > >> > > > >> Too bad, because had it been set up properly, it could have been > > > fun. > > > >> Having everything rejected isn't fun at all... > > > > > > It's unfortunate that you believe that getting your photos to meet a > > > minimum > > > standard isn't a competition. Any time someone puts up a bar that you > > > need > > > to clear to get a reward, it is a competition. > > > Just because you aren't competing with another person, doesn't mean > > > you > > > aren't competing, it just means that the rules of the competition are > > > such > > > that you are competing against a standard. > > > OTOH, I really do think the people running the gallery totally > > > buggered up > > > when they changed the acceptance procedure into a peer based > > > popularity > > > contest. > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > [email protected] > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________________ > > ____ > > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! 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