>...after hearing of all the various problems others are having, I doubt if >I'll bother to submit anything (and I *still* haven't written a bio).
I've got a fair number of images accepted into the Gallery & several into the Premiere Gallery. I've handed out my Pentax gallery address to a lot of people & the response I get back from most of them is that are really impressed with the overall manner in which the images are presented. I couldn't have done that kind of presentation without having my own web site with its attending costs & maintenance. And yes, I'm getting more rejections now than early on. I can also say that I see a lot of images up for voting now that I would never think of submitting. The images I saw posted in the gallery in the beginning are much better than what I see in the voting section now. my $.02 worth. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery "Resignation" > > > Gee thanks. Now how do I get this arrow out of my butt? > > Ob.Trivia - did you know that archery targets are called 'butts'? > Do you know why? > > > As far as the Pentax Gallery goes - I didn't submit originally > for a couple of reasons; my first attempt didn't work (because > I was trying to submit a scanned image, and there was a bug in > their validation code), and I never got round to writing a bio. > > Now, after hearing of all the various problems others are having, > I doubt if I'll bother to submit anything (and I *still* haven't > written a bio). > > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 10:07:05PM +0100, Bob W wrote: >> > How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? >> >> You must follow the Way Of The Blind Archer, grasshopper. The Blind >> Archer does not see the target. He allows the target to see him, and >> to guide the arrow into his heart, as the heron's beak enters the >> stream. For are they not one, the archer, the target and the arrow? >> Are they not avatars of each of us, and we of them? Your hand must not >> know that it has released the bowstring, it must slip from you as >> melting snow slips from the bamboo leaf. Then surely the bow, the >> string, the arrow, the archer and the target are one. >> >> Hope that helps. >> >> -- >> Bob >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> > Behalf Of frank theriault >> > Sent: 27 September 2007 21:29 >> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > Subject: Re: Pentax Gallery "Resignation" >> > >> > On 9/27/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > >Question: how subjective is this standard? >> > > >> > > Same as all competitions: Very. >> > > >> > > Personally, I quite like the Pentax Gallery kind of contest >> because, >> > > unlike other contests, I get to aim repeatedly at the same target >> > > (acceptance into the Gallery, in this case). I may not >> > agree with their >> > > choices, but teaching myself (or trying to teach myself!) to >> achieve >> > > what they're after makes me push myself as a photographer. >> > > >> > > I find that creating works that please someone else is a lot more >> > > demanding, tiring, frustrating and annoying than creating >> > things that >> > > please just myself. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. >> > >> > I think my problem with the Pentax Gallery is that I don't know what >> > the standard is. How can I aim for a target if I can't see it? >> > >> > There's no explanation as to the criteria to get past the "accepted >> > artists' voting": How many votes are required to be accepted or >> > rejected? What percentage of "yes" votes is required for >> acceptance? >> > and even then, it states clearly that those that get past the first >> > "screening" can be rejected outright by the Pentax Panel. We don't >> > know who those people are, and what they're looking for. >> > >> > It's all very "closed door", which to me makes it something of a >> > crap-shoot. I'm not sure how submitting many photos and having them >> > all rejected makes me a better photographer. >> > >> > It rather just leaves me scratching my head, and thinking that if I >> > want feedback or reaction, this isn't the place for me. Some may >> find >> > this sort of exercise very valuable, but I don't. >> > >> > I mean, hey, no hard feelings. Pentax can run this thing any way >> they >> > want; it's their contest. However, if this is the way they choose >> to >> > run it, my choice is to not participate. >> > >> > cheers, >> > frank >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > [email protected] >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >> > above and follow the directions. >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
