Yes. I'm fond of Epson Premium Luster myself for colour printing, but that's a
little glossier than the semi-matte minilabs call matte.
-Adam
Glen Tortorella wrote:
> I see. Would a semi-gloss paper be a better choice (and be similar
> to the semi-matte of minilabs)?
>
> Glen
>
> On Oct 10, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>
>> It will(although not ideally, it's intended for pigment printers),
>> but note it's a true Matte paper, not the semi-matte or pearl that
>> minilabs pass off as matte paper. Matte papers are not really ideal
>> for colour work unless you want a watercolour look to the print.
>> You may want to look at Moab?legion's other products as well, I
>> simply went with the paper I knew.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>> Thank you, Adam...
>>>
>>> Will the Moab 5x7 paper you mention work with the R280? I just want
>>> to make sure of this.
>>>
>>> Though, I am somewhat disappointed, as Newegg is now out of stock on
>>> the R280. I would prefer buying it from them. I know the R280 is
>>> probably available (at a good price, too) at one of the popular New
>>> York camera stores (B&H, Adorama, etc.), but I would rather not
>>> purchase it from these stores.
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> On Oct 10, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>>
>>>> The 4490 is likely a better choice to start than the 4990, unless
>>>> you're already shooting Large Format. You'll also want to pick up
>>>> some 35mm ANR inserts from betterscanning.com, they massively
>>>> improve 35mm scans from flatbeds. You'll want 2 for the 4490. Note
>>>> Epson.com has refurbs right now for $99.
>>>>
>>>> The printer will come with a set of ink carts. So you won't be
>>>> buying ink right away. If you intend to do large amounts of
>>>> printing, a R2400 or up will quickly pay for itself in Ink (the
>>>> R2400's in costs are about 1/4 the cost of an R280's, due to the
>>>> cartridges holding a lot more ink than the low-end cartridges. Note
>>>> that a high-end printer like the Epson 4800 is even cheaper, at
>>>> about 1/3 of the cost of the R2400. The cost difference between
>>>> those two is about 250 8x10's).
>>>>
>>>> Your best bet if you like 5x7's is to print 2 to a page and cut
>>>> down. Most papers are available in 8.5x11 and larger only. A few
>>>> are available in 5x7, Moab papers in particular are available in
>>>> 5x7 (Entrada bright is a superb matte art paper).
>>>>
>>>> -Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>> I am considering buying a scanner (and a photo inkjet, too). I do
>>>>> not like being pigeon-holed to the 8.5x11 size, or having to cut my
>>>>> prints in order to attain different sizes. I mention 8.5x11
>>>>> because
>>>>> this is clearly the most popular print paper size, and it is
>>>>> also the
>>>>> only one (at least in Epson's line) that comes in matte with
>>>>> borders. I would prefer 5x7, and I dislike glossy prints. I
>>>>> mention
>>>>> Epson because their R280 printer seems like a great value.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, what do yo recommend for a scanner? I believe someone
>>>>> mentioned something with 4990 in the model number (Epson perhaps?).
>>>>> Again, the scanner route is still questionable for me. While it
>>>>> has
>>>>> its advantages--in terms of control of print quality, etc.--it, to
>>>>> me, seems like it is rather limiting, too. Then there is the
>>>>> *total*
>>>>> start-up cost that few, with the exception of Rebekah, seem to
>>>>> acknowledge. Yes, the printer is $99, but then ink for it is about
>>>>> $70, a scanner is probably $200-$300, and then there is that
>>>>> calibration software, and what else...? I consider all of this in
>>>>> light of: 8.5x11 for everything, unless I am willing to start
>>>>> cutting...Hmm...
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Glen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>>>>> Anyway, in the years we have done this, our results with print
>>>>>>> processing have been very good. I wish they would offer good B&W
>>>>>>> print C-41 processing, though. Those two rolls with the purplish
>>>>>>> tint disappointed me. Perhaps print B&W C-41 is just too
>>>>>>> strange an
>>>>>>> animal? I have been thinking of leaving my color print
>>>>>>> processing to
>>>>>>> W-M, and trying A&I mailers for my B&W prints. Overall, their
>>>>>>> prices
>>>>>>> are rather high (though not more than the "pro" shops), but since
>>>>>>> they charge only $1.50 a roll more for traditional print B&W
>>>>>>> ($15.50
>>>>>>> vs. $17.00), I may opt for that. I have heard that their work is
>>>>>>> excellent ("Old Grumpy" had endorsed them). I welcome any
>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>> thoughts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had inconsistent results with Wal-Mart's in house processing.
>>>>>> Thus, everything goes into their send-out bin, even the C-41
>>>>>> stuff. It
>>>>>> seems that quality is variable by store and by staff. Fuji is
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> consistent. Basically, if you put your film in one of their 1-
>>>>>> hour
>>>>>> envelopes they're going to process it in the store. As far as
>>>>>> I can
>>>>>> tell, anything that's not in a 1-hour envelope goes to Fuji and
>>>>>> takes a
>>>>>> few days, at least. Perhaps Bill can confirm this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C-41 B&W is tricky and most mini-labs don't do it well. Wal-
>>>>>> Mart, as
>>>>>> well as Target, Costco, Rite-Aid, etc., are probably going to
>>>>>> print it
>>>>>> on the same paper they print everything else on. You're going to
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> color cast. I used to send film to a mail order outfit called
>>>>>> Clark
>>>>>> Color (I believe they're affiliated with York Photo). They would
>>>>>> print
>>>>>> C-41 B&W and traditional B&W on traditional black and white paper.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> have since gone to a production inkjet system that really sucks.
>>>>>> Your
>>>>>> best bet is to get a scanner and scan/print the stuff yourself.
>>>>>>
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