I've always liked the appearance of the Takumar lenses with the steel  
focus rings. I had the fisheye Tal  at one time but sold it when I  
was raising funds for my D.
On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:55 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>
> On Oct 16, 2007, at 3:11 PM, Cotty wrote:
>
>> On 16/10/07, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> You would have been just as well served with the SMC T 17mm f 4.0,
>>> and
>>> could have avoided surgery, (you beast).
>>
>> I dislike the focus ring on these lenses. I prefer the later rubber
>> grips.
>
> Having bought a Fish-Eye-Takumar 17/4 after enjoying Cotty's K17/4 FE
> so much, I have to agree with him. The two lenses are near as nothing
> to identical performance-wise, but the K17/4 FE is nicer to use.
>
> Beauty shots of L1 with both of them:
>    http://homepage.mac.com/godders/PANL1-17MM/
>
> The minor advantage of the M42 lens is that it has an A/M switch on
> it, so you can have it stopped down to optimum aperture (f/7.1 to f/8
> by my testing) and flip it from wide open to stopped down with the
> flick of a switch for focusing then metering and exposure. But most
> of the time I focus by zone and just leave the switch in the M
> position, with the lens stopped down.
>
> Godfrey
>
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