In a message dated 10/17/2007 8:08:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chicken or egg, dear? When I see people who indiscriminately praise everything thats posted, whether tepid or otherwise, I tend to lose respect for the entire process. Rather than damning with faint praise, which does no good at all, perhaps it would be more honest to call spades what they are. Often, this list is little more than a circle jerk when it comes to reviewing pictures. It's a nice, warm and happy place, and I appreciate that people need that in their lives, but the best way to improve your pictures is to have it ruthlessly picked apart, and have the failings of the picture pointed out. Unfortunately, when people do that, they tend to get spat on.
I don't post a lot of photos at the moment because most of my photography right now is client based for the studio I am working for, and I'm not bothering with securing permission to show the stuff. My work is selling, and making money, I don't need praise beyond that. We can agree to disagree on this one, I won't think less of you for it, and I hope you'll feel the same way. William Robb ------------------------- A lot of us say nothing when we do not like a photo -- we've talked about this a lot over the years. When you share you get used to who says what and over time you know who is not chiming in -- ergo lots or minimal reactions. Minimal means many are not saying anything which is telling all by itself. There are very few indiscriminate praisers here -- I don't see that happening. What you don't get is that if someone likes something and someone else doesn't, it means it rang bells with someone and maybe not with the other 80-90%. That is valuable information too. And reactions are subjective. As I said before, when one shows photos one gets a fairly good idea of how "good" the photo is by the reactions on list -- lots of reactions to minimal reactions to lukewarm reactions to high praise. I get tired of this idea that there is no point in showing photos here and that we all have our heads up our asses. That if one person says they like a photo that the shower is stupid enough to think it means everyone likes it. We don't. You really think we're all stupid don't you? We know what kind of feedback we get. Later, Marnie --------------------------------------------- Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

