That's exactly my approach when commenting. I view, then comment w/o reading others' comments first, for the same reason.
Tom C. >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:30:17 -0700 (PDT) > > >Not possible, of course, but I'd like to have a way to guarantee that >everyone should critique without having read others. >I imagine there are some who will not comment 'til they first have had >a chance to check what's being written. >I will intentionally avoid reading critiques prior to writing and >sending mine. Gives me a the tiniest (probably false) sense of >integrity. :) In my case, a very rare thing. > >Jack > > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's the only way we grow, right. ;-) > > > > If I tell you a mediocre image is great, you may just keep on taking > > mediocre images thinking they're great. I may be kind, but I'm doing > > you a > > disservice... and vice-versa of course. ;-) > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > >Subject: Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing > > >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:43:18 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > >In the future, I'll be especially eager to read your comments re my > > >stuff. <grin> > > > > > >Jack > > > > > >--- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Tom C wrote: > > > > > > > > >If someone is sharing an image out of camaraderie it's one > > thing. > > > > In that > > > > >case the person is likely not expecting feedback about the > > image, > > > > but > > > > >possibly just about the subject, as when I displayed the photos > > of > > > > the > > > > >chihuahua. It seems though that almost every image is viewed as > > > > >exceptional. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >One must also take into consideration the experience of the one > > > > making the > > > > >comments. Perceptions and the ability to view critically grow > > with > > > > time. > > > > >Images that I once thought were very good, now present glaring > > > > deficiencies > > > > >when I view them. They may have been the best I had done at the > > > > time, but in > > > > >hindsight I see they were not a good as I once thought. > > > > > > > > > >Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the opposite happens occasionally too.... one reason I > > never > > > > literally toss stuff I've done > > > > even if I think it is lousy work :) > > > > > > > > Now and then I find something in my archives taht I think is > > worth > > > > something and I chose a different > > > > negative to print... I might find myself liking the one a > > rejected > > > > years > > > > ago better than the one I chose as > > > > what I thought had the most promise. > > > > > > > > In terms of commenting on others here, I generally give a nod to > > > > those > > > > I enjoy but if I feel I can help by > > > > serious critquing I tend to do that off list... > > > > > > > > IF something really sucks I keep my fingers off the keyboard :) > > > > > > > > ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > > > >>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > > > > >>Subject: Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing > > > > >>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:10:48 -0600 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > > > >>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >> > > > > >>Subject: Re: Cut or Keep? A Question About Editing > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>In a message dated 10/15/2007 9:24:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight > > Time, > > > > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > >>>And stop posting pictures here, because you won't get an > > accurate > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>opinion > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>about what is good from this list. > > > > >>> > > > > >>>William Robb > > > > >>> > > > > >>>=============== > > > > >>>I beg to differ. Only someone who showed his own photos on > > list > > > > so > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>rarely > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>would think this. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>Chicken or egg, dear? > > > > >>When I see people who indiscriminately praise everything thats > > > > posted, > > > > >>whether tepid or otherwise, I tend to lose respect for the > > entire > > > > process. > > > > >>Rather than damning with faint praise, which does no good at > > all, > > > > perhaps > > > > >>it > > > > >>would be more honest to call spades what they are. > > > > >>Often, this list is little more than a circle jerk when it > > comes to > > > > >>reviewing pictures. It's a nice, warm and happy place, and I > > > > appreciate > > > > >>that > > > > >>people need that in their lives, but the best way to improve > > your > > > > pictures > > > > >>is to have it ruthlessly picked apart, and have the failings of > > the > > > > picture > > > > >>pointed out. Unfortunately, when people do that, they tend to > > get > > > > spat on. > > > > >> > > > > >>I don't post a lot of photos at the moment because most of my > > > > photography > > > > >>right now is client based for the studio I am working for, and > > I'm > > > > not > > > > >>bothering with securing permission to show the stuff. My work > > is > > > > selling, > > > > >>and making money, I don't need praise beyond that. > > > > >> > > > > >>We can agree to disagree on this one, I won't think less of you > > for > > > > it, and > > > > >>I hope you'll feel the same way. > > > > >> > > > > >>William Robb > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>-- > > > > >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > >>[email protected] > > > > >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > >>to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > > above > > > > and > > > > >>follow the directions. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > > above > > > > and follow the directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Tired of spam? 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