Well am I really ill tempered? Or just blatantly outspoken?

As far as photographic quality prints go there are two points to consider.
1. this is a photography list.  2. people keep saying their printer makes
photographic quality prints.

The is nothing to say a print that is not photographic in appearance is not
a good and interesting print, nor that it does not convey what the producer
of the image wanted to convey. But I find the claim whether by the
manufacturer or the user that consumer printers produce photographic quality
prints disingenuous.

If there is one that will do so I would like to know so I can think about
getting one. Certainly I have never produced a print better than a C rating
on my printer, but it is an older model and I would suspect many of the
newer ones will get up to D.

In fact I would expect most of the prints I will see will be in the C and D
range and that is not bad. I will be very happy if I see one in the E range.

I find this an opportunity to check out printers in the real world, used by
people like you, Mike, and others on the list. It is also a chance to
compile a rating list for the printers you use that will give someone in the
market for a new printer an idea of what to expect of the various printers
available.

Certainly it will be a one dimensional rating. I expect to see some very
nice prints that do not rate any higher than a C. In fact I deliberately
choose ratings that are not really hierarchical other than the lowest and I
only put that one in in the hopes people would not send prints in that
category.

Once again, I would be very pleased to find out I am wrong and that there
are inexpensive printers that we can use as a part of a real digital
photographic darkroom.

--graywolf
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The optimist's cup is half full,
The pessimist's is half empty,
The wise man enjoys his drink.


----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:19 AM
Subject: PDML Digital Print Challenge (was Tom 's digital challenge)


> Curmudgeon Rittenhouse wittily wrote:
>
> > A. Awful
> > B. Better
> > C. Cool (a vary nice print, but not photographic in appearance).
> > D. Delightful (nearly photographic quality)
> > E. Excellent (every bit as good as a good mini-lab print)
> > F. Fantastic (as good as a custom print by an expert printer)
>
>
> Okay, I'll play the game, but I'm not so sure of the standard of
> judgement...I don't think inkjet prints look exactly like traditional
> photos, but I find that a GOOD thing. They look different, and I sometimes
> like the ways in which they're different. Sometimes not.
>
> I just sent Tom (and Shel) two small prints of images shot with the Pentax
> Optio 330 and printed on my Canon S800. These are definitely "consumer"
> pieces of equipment. We'll see how they "score."
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