At f13 and smaller you're hitting the diffraction limits of the
sensor/lens combo and giving up quality. Unless DoF is an issue,
there's no good reason to stop down past f11 on 1.5x crop digital. The
16-50 will outperform the 24-50 at apertures where diffraction limits
are not an issue.

-Adam

On 3/11/08, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that's good to know but are you talking much sharper
>  at F11-F22? I cant see how there would be a big
>  difference in that range, the A24-50 is really good
>  in that range on digital size sensor. The A24-50 is
>  also much smaller and lighter tha  the 16-50
>  isnt it? That matters to me when the camera is hanging
>  on my neck for long periods...
>
> jco
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DagT
>  Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:21 PM
>  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>  Subject: Re: GREAT "general purpose" Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS?
>
>
>  I tried the A version on K10D this summer.  I´ve had it since the mid
>  80s and it has been great with film, but compared to my primes in that
>  range it wasn´t not sharp enough for my use on K10D.  My DA*16-50 is
>  much better.
>
>  DagT
>
>  Den 11. mars. 2008 kl. 04.22 skrev J. C. O'Connell:
>
>  > Did you have the A version or the F version? I have had both and my A
>  > version is better than the F which I sold. Dont forget, I am talking
>  > about
>  > near
>  > range
>  > usage and at small fstops like 11-22 because the flash is powerful
>  > enough
>  > to allow those stops even at iso 200. I have no idea if its any good
>  > at
>  > infinity
>  > or anywhere near wide open, but if used like I am using it, its damn
>  > nice,
>  > not too expensive, and good build quality too.( I ususally dont like
>  > most
>  > A lenses in terms of build, but this one aint bad.)
>  > jco
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>  > Of Adam
>  > Maas
>  > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:56 PM
>  > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>  > Subject: Re: GREAT "general purpose" Zoom for the Pentax DSLRS?
>  >
>  >
>  > Tried one out at one point. It was alright, but not any better than
>  > the
>  > 18-55 DA in its range, larger, heavier, harder to manual focus due
>  > to lack
>  > of contrast wide open at 24mm. Wasn't much impressed with it on
>  > digital. Of
>  > course, I may have had a bad sample.
>  >
>  > -Adam
>  >
>  > On 3/10/08, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >> Never seen that particular lens. I had a 35~105 years ago that I
>  >> really liked except it was pretty heavy.  My biggest problem is at my
>  >> age the AF is almost a requirement anymore  :-)
>  >>
>  >> Walt
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> On 3/10/08, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >>> I have been using for about a month now the SMC PENTAX-A 24-50/4.0
>  >>> Zoom almost exclusively ( mostly product photos for ebay on  >
>  >> tabletop ) on my *istDS DSLR. Its a two ring zoom so you never  > get
>  >> any annoying "zoom creep" and it holds focus perfectly  > when
>  >> zooming. The F4 speed is a little slow but the lens is so  >
>  >> contrasty
>  >> that its easy to focus at 50mm ( I use a split image  > screen -
>  >> third
>  >> party model - in my *istDS ). Anyway, after you  > figure in the 1.5X
>  >> lens factor you are left with a 35mm SLR  > equiv of 36mm to 75mm
>  >> which is a very versatile "super normal"  > lens. This model is
>  >> extremely contrasty, great color saturation,  > and freedom from
>  >> flaring. It works beautifully for tabletop  > product photography. I
>  >> have never needed wider or longer, as it  > has a pretty decent
>  >> magnification at 50mm and min focus. The constant  > aperture (F4
>  >> thru
>  >> the zoom range) is great when using manual full  > power flash like I
>  >> like to do.  >
>  >>> Anyway, if you do a lot of ebay or similar product photography for
>  >>> web,
>  >>> I recommend this lens very highly. Much more versitile than a
>  >>> prime or macro 50mm with the 24m capability.
>  >>>
>  >>> I must add I have never used the stock 18-55mm that was sold
>  >>> with the camera, but I doubt it can match this lens, let alone
>  >>> beat it. Maybe it can? Anyone ever compared the two in the 24-50mm
>  >>> range?
>  >>>
>  >>> jco
>  >>>
>  >>>
>
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