frank theriault wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:34 PM, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>  Not that it actually WANTs to be, truth be known.
>>  I think they'd much rather be an off-shore principality. Or something.
>>  P.J.'s statement stands without correction! :-D
> 
> What I meant is that since Quebec is a part of Canada, to say that
> "Canada" has a problem with a part of itself doesn't make a lot of
> sense.

Sure it does.
If Cleveland wanted to be a part of Canada instead of Ohio, or eveen 
wanted to ba suburb of Toronto, it would be perfectly logical to say 
Ohio has a real problem with Cleveland!
What's the difference?

> And, in fact, what's really been happening is a power struggle between
> the government of the Province of Quebec and Canada's Federal
> Government.

Right.
And Canada (the Feds) don't have a problem with Quebec? Please...

> If one takes it that Quebec is the people that inhabit it (as opposed
> to whoever may governing from time to time) then it's shown
> consistently that it wants to remain in Canada.
> 
> Back at the time of Confederation (1867) about 20 to 25% of the
> population did not want to join the Canadian Confederation.  The
> percentage of ~hardcore~ separatists in Quebec has remained remarkably
> consistent ever since.
> 
> If the pot is sweetened by using wishy-washy concepts such as
> "sovreignty association" (touted to be an autonomous Quebec that
> shares such things as currency and armed forces with what's left of
> Canada - as if The Rest of Canada would go along with that) then
> supporters of change can swell up to close to 50%.  If the population
> is asked misleading questions that make it look like they're voting
> for negotiations rather than separation, the numbers swell.  I lived
> in Quebec during the first referendum, and many "yes" (ie:  yes to
> separation) voters that I knew didn't want separation, but only wanted
> to "send a message to Ottawa".  They honestly thought that that
> referendum was only a mandate to start sovreignty negotiations with
> Ottawa, nothing more.
> 
> But, when asked the simple question, "Do you want Quebec to separate
> completely from Canada", the numbers have rarely varied over the
> years.

Still 25% to go, 75% would opt to stay?

> Quebec doesn't want to separate.  Never has.  Never will.
> 
> cheers,
> frank

Do the MSM all know that?

keith



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