People already happy with their equipment? Sounds good but I don't fully 
agree...I would say resigned instead of happy.

The film SLR was an even more mature product, and here people keep wishing the 
advent of the MZ-1, the flagship, the perfect mach for the limiteds...that 
never showed up.
So people here finally realized the limits of their favourite brand and that, 
if they want/need certain features (high fps count, fast AF, full frame), they 
have to move elsewhere (as many have already done).

The consequence is that thread about future features and/or complaints about 
present ones are no longer popular, and newcomers that still have faith in that 
their brand will be able to fight in the premier league look for othe places to 
keep dreaming.

So this is a more paceful place where people who knew each other thanks to 
their (current or past) relation with Pentax now share their pictures and have 
a good time talking about things related (or not) to photography. Yes, 
sometimes there is some equipment chat, but it is not the majority anymore.

The 'negative' side is that the list may be seen as a 'closed' group of 
friends, with lots of private jokes and not very prone to orientate and 
convince new pentaxians that they have made the right choice (I would say that 
there are far less introductions and 'novice' questions that we used to have). 
And it is a pitty since I don't think that this is true at all but that people 
here is really helpful.

Anyway, as I said before, there are other places to look for advice/information 
about Pentax nowadays...it is just that I have been reading the list for so 
many years that it is hard to admit that is is getting less interesting for me 
lately...(but I keep reading...;-) )

Regards,

Jaume in their yearly eloquent day

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Enviado: miércoles, 28 de mayo, 2008 20:12:13
Asunto: Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:46:24AM -0700, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
> >>BTW, Paul, this link is an example of why it is worth looking 
> occasionally at dpreview, despite the admitted annoyances of that site. 
> News such as this shows up much earlier there than it does here.
> 
> Today I was just thinking that this list has somehow shifted its focus since 
> the digital era took over.
> Before there were few places to talk about Pentax equipment, so this was a 
> main topic. But the digital brought also more 'competitors' and people here 
> seems a bot bored of too technical (and lots of times closer to computers 
> rather than photography)  so this kind of threads are not as popular anymore.
> So we find much more PESOs, GMFs, OTs, so the list is more about people 
> talking on photography and showing what they do, that normally own (or used 
> to) Pentax equipment.
> 
> No more bloody fights (except when the magic words arise: 'aperture 
> simulator') but also no more guru's anticipating future developments...that's 
> why people has to look elsewhere to find it and, eventually, report it here 
> in case someone is still interested.

That's because digital SLRs are, by now, a mature technology.
Pentax addressed most of the complaints about the *ist-D in
the K10D, and polished off a few more with the K20D.  Apart
from the "full-frame" sensor (non-)issue, there's not a lot
wrong with the K20D for almost everybody almost all the time.
The advent of the SDM lenses removed another potential source
of complaints, too.

So while the K20D isn't perfect, it will do for now.  Pentax
have intimated they are working on a model beyond the K20D,
so there's room for speculating on future developments (will
it have better build quality, a faster frame rate, faster AF,
etc., etc.).  But most people don't care, because what they
can get now is more than good enough to be useful.


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