Paul & William:  The two of you have been so generous with excellent advice 
here.  Big, big thanks.  Cheers, Christine


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From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: GESO: Anne


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> Subject: Re: GESO: Anne
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>> But keep in mind that nailing it in just a few shots is an aberration. 
>> Most accompished
>> portrait photographers shoot a lot of frames. Don't quit working until 
>> you've nailed it. But
>> don't count on volume. Make every shot count.
>
> I'd like to expand slightly on this.
> Sometimes it doesn't matter how many frames you shoot, you are just 
> wasting yours and your
> subjects time.
> It happens.
> Recognize if this is happening, and go and do something else. There is 
> nothing to gain by trying
> to force a picture to happen, and often, there is much to lose.
>
> I found when I was learning portraiture (some would say I never did), I 
> shot the same model,
> often  with the same background, the same lights and the same lens many 
> times in a row, probably
> 50 times. As I worked with her over time (several years), I got more 
> keepers per session, and
> the quality of the keepers went up as well.
> You have some good shots there, and she really is quite beautiful.
> Next time you photograph her perhaps try keeping the lens axis at or near 
> her eye level, I think
> you will find she photographs better with a slightly elevated camera. 
> Also, longer focal length
> and get farther away. I wouldn't go shorter than ~90mm with her.
>
> In general terms, when you are going through you pictures, don't dwell 
> overly on the good ones.
> Everyone shoots good pictures from time to time, and frankly, I'd rather 
> look at someone else's
> good pictures than try to feign a lack of narcissism about my own.
> Cull out the good ones and give copies to your friends, post them to the 
> net, or whatever, and
> get over it.
> It is far more instructive, and far less egotistical, to look at the ones 
> that didn't work and
> try to suss out what went wrong.
> Once you've figured why a picture didn't work, don't repeat that mistake. 
> Eventually, you will
> get more keepers (if for no other reason than to be able to stop looking 
> at crappy photographs).
> With your portraiture, try to be very objective about your subject.
> No one has a perfect face, and there is nothing wrong with either doing a 
> bit of camouflage or
> misdirecting to limit the exposure of less than wonderful features.
> Contrary to popular belief, portraiture isn't about recording what your 
> subect looks like.
> Also, people tend to either have goofy happy smiles or else rather stern 
> expressions.
> I hate goofy toothy smiles in portraiture.
> You have to do a few to keep the subject's mom happy, but only do a few, 
> perhaps while adjusting
> any lighting you are using. If you do too many the person starts to look 
> like Ronald McDonald.
> Stern expressions tend to make the person look sullen or morose, which 
> isn't attractive in the
> least. Unless you are Yousuf Karsch, stern is a good expression to stay 
> away from.
> I like to try for a "pleasant" expression. Sort of smiling on the inside, 
> and just letting a
> hint of it out for the camera to see.
> If that makes any sense....
>
> William Robb
>
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