If your crops were of the same dimension in pixels and the framing on  
the bird was the same, the K20D and 300 would yield a slightly larger  
print.
Paul
On Jun 27, 2008, at 9:15 AM, John Wittingham wrote:

> Thanks for the responses, OK I think I need to re-word this  
> altogether, Pentax K10D 10.2 Megapixels fitted with 400mm lens v's  
> Pentax K20D 14.6 Megapixels fitted with 300mm lens, assuming both  
> lenses produce excellent results, which combination would give the  
> bigger print size from a crop at the center of the frame if yoy  
> were for example shooting a distant bird at the same distance in  
> each case?
>
> Regards,
>
> John
> ________________________________________
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J.  
> C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27 June 2008 13:18
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length..........
>
> Are you trying to say that there will be no resolution loss in  
> using a K20D
> with a shorter lens vs a K10D with a longer lens if the AOV of the  
> image
> is kept the same via cropping the K20D image? The REAL sensor size  
> of the 2
> cameras
> are NOT EQUIVALENT if you crop the K20D image and use a shorter fl  
> lens.
>
> JC OCONNELL
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of
> Anthony Farr
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:03 AM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: Sensor resolution V focal length..........
>
>
> The crop will be the same from K10d to K20d, because the crop  
> factor is
> related to the sensor dimension not its resolution, and the two  
> cameras have
> equivalent sensor dimensions.
>
> The K20D shots will "enlarge" more at 100% view, simply because it  
> has a
> greater pixel density.  This doesn't mean anything other than that  
> your
> monitor resolution (e.g. 1024 x 768)represents a smaller patch of  
> the K20ds
> sensor compared to the K10d.  The >>whole<< picture will have the  
> same field
> of view for the same lens when the two camera models are compared.   
> You
> wouldn't print at 100%, the only practical use for this view is when
> performing some editing functions, and for pixel peeping.
>
> Regards,
> Anthony Farr
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of John Wittingham
>> Sent: Friday, 27 June 2008 8:59 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Sensor resolution V focal length..........
>>
>> I'm in need of some longer glass, longer than 300mm. It occured to me
>> the
> other
>> day that the crop of a given area of a frame would be consirerably
>> bigger
> the more
>> resolution you have from the sensor of the camera viewed at 100%. So
>> I'm
> thinking
>> 400mm on the K10D would be approximately 33% bigger at the same crop
>> as it would be from 300mm viewed at 100% right?
>>
>> So if I'm using a K20D how much bigger would a crop of the same
>> subject
> shot with
>> the K10D be viewed at 100%, could I substitute pixels for focal  
>> length
> providing the
>> lens resolution is up to the job? Are there any downsides other than
>> the
> obvious
>> differences when using a shorter focal length such as DoF?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
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