I haven't read this entire thread, but I find your shot the crane to be a very interesting and attractive photograph. The noise doesn't bother me anymore than grain used to bother me. It's part and parcel of high ISO photography. (Although I think that with a bit more exposure (which may not have been feasible), the K20D can do better at this ISO.) In any case, I like the photo. Nice work. Paul On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:45 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> I think the noise contributes to the bokeh and partially masks >> detail. > > I think the softness is mostly - 99.9% - due to the noise at the > high ISO > (3200) > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:39 PM > Subject: Re: PESO - "Extreme Crane" > > >> I think the noise contributes to the bokeh and partially masks >> detail. >> Don't know if said combination rises to the level of "artsy", >> however. If >> it does it for you, what else really matters. >> My eye is likely letting me down. >> >> Jack >> >> >> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> From: Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: PESO - "Extreme Crane" > >>> Jack, thanks for looking & commenting. >>> >>> I was seeking a more artsey, less documentary image and was >>> wondering what >>> others thought of the softness @ 3200 ISO. >>> >>>> Do I see some dirt specs? >>> I don't believe so as there were particles in the air >>> & this was a heavily >>> back lit area. >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: PESO - "Extreme Crane" >>> >>> >>>> Mmmm....marginally(?) Somewhat soft (virtually no >>> feather detail) and >>>> bokeh is distracting. Not up to your standard, IMHO. >>>> Do I see some dirt specs? >>>> >>>> Jack >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 8/28/08, Ken Waller >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Subject: PESO - "Extreme Crane" >>>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 10:03 AM >>>>> Check out >>>>> >>> http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html >>>>> >>>>> Pushing the K20D & 600mm FA to the limit ( >>> although I >>>>> could have added >>>>> another convertor (2.0 X-L). >>>>> 1/500 sec @ f4.0, 3200 ISO. >>>>> Watcha think? Acceptable ? >>>>> >>>>> Kenneth Waller >>>>> http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

