From: Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Joseph McAllister wrote: > >> > Anybody on this list ever get an F in anything? How about an >> > Incomplete? An F was the same as a 50-59%. An Incomplete was the same >> > as a 0%, and as far as I know, was never averaged in to a final grade >> > unless it trumped all grades by being a requirement to graduate. > > Not where I came from. An F counted as 0 on your GPA and /was/ included > if you didn't drop the class, whether a required class or not. An > Incomplete was not counted in your GPA but prevented graduation if > required. Never ran into someone with a non-dropped Incomplete that > wasn't required, so I don't know what happened in that case.
Nor where I went to school. You couldn't "flunk out" of public schools, but you could fail a grade. I never did, but I was always somewhere between a 'B' and a 'C' student, although I got one or two 'F's in individual courses (had to take second year Latin twice). Got into college with a "low 'B' average" because of GREAT SAT & National Merit Scholarship Exam scores. The university I went to used the same strict 7 point scale the public schools I went to used, and had the same system for figuring GPA; probably because it was a "state" university. 100 - 94 = A 4.0 * course hours 93 - 87 = B 3.0 * course hours 86 - 80 = C 2.0 * course hours 79 - 72 = D 1.0 * course hours 71 - 0 = F course hours GPA = sum of (grades*course hours)/total hours taken. You had to have a 2.0 overall average to graduate, and had to make at least a 'C' in all of your required core curriculum. I had to take four 3 hour courses & one 5 hour course first semester, Freshman year. The university also had something called the "Grade Point Deficit" which meant how many hours below a 2.0 average you'd fallen. Get a GPD of 25 and it's good-bye college and "Good Morning Vietnam!" C*3hr, C*3hr, F=3hr, C*3hr, B*5hr = (6+6+0+6+15)/17 = 1.94 GPA That "F" in a 3 hour course equaled 6 hours of GPD, and it was REALLY screwed up. It was one of the few subjects I was good at, and I had an 'A' going into the final exam. I did well on the final too ... I probably should have pulled at least 'B's in my other courses, but I was in over my head. The curriculum was undergoing a transformation, and although they'd thrown out the old, no one could figure out what the new was going to be. One instructor told us not to worry about what he was teaching us, because it was probably all bullshit anyway. It was so totally unstructured, I was lost. I was lucky to get even 'C's. The F came because the instructor failed to turn in my grade for her class; 3 hour course + no grade = automatic F. After I got my grades, I went to see the instructor, who explained, "Oh, someone told me you dropped out and joined the Air Force, so I didn't bother." She wouldn't submit a corrected grade, and the university wouldn't take my word for it. I later found out she was on probation because of other academic screw-ups. By then I'd changed majors anyway because I couldn't cope with the other weirdness. An "Incomplete" couldn't be changed to a drop after the end of the semester. If you didn't clear the "Incomplete" before the end of the next semester, it got changed. The instructor would sometimes give you a D, but usually it became an F ... and even if you did clear the "Incomplete", it could never count higher than a C. You know ... I'd forgotten all that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
