Which is why once composes before stopping down. Works pretty darn
well. Especially since many M42 lenses were actually designed to work
that way (Said aperture stop-down plate you're complaining about
didn't appear until M42 mount was more that 16 years old and many
lenses never supported it anyways).

-Adam

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:27 PM, JC OConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To rephrase that, I might be willing to use a M42 on a PK or EOS
> body manually once in a while with an occasional Fisheye, 15mm,
> or 1000mm or something, but for everyday use, NO WAY. Manual aperture
> mode of working is just unacceptably slow and annoying and error
> prone (composing with the aperture closed).
>
> JC O'Connell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> JC OConnell
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:25 PM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: ANY M42 DSLR rumors (yet)?
>
>
> I cant disagree any more strongly, the M42s SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER without
> auto aperture, they are so annoying with the totally manual aperture you
> get on a adapter that I would be willing to buy a M42 DSLR so I could
> USE them again. The loss of auto aperture is NOT a "fairly small loss in
> functionality", it a FATAL loss IMHO.
>
> JC O'Connell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Adam Maas
> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:03 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: ANY M42 DSLR rumors (yet)?
>
>
> Which is true primarily because of Canon shooters looking for good,
> inexpensive primes (And to a greatly lesser extent the same among
> Pentax, Olympus/Panasonic and Sony shooters). M42 costs are still a
> fraction of the cost of similar Canon lenses and the M42 lenses are
> often a fair bit better than some of said Canon lenses (or in the case
> of 50's, faster AND better).
>
> There's a much smaller market for an M42 DSLR than there is for M42
> lenses _because_ those lenses are easily adapted to so many mounts with
> a fairly small loss in functionality.
>
> The primary market for Manual Focus lenses in mounts other than K and F
> are Canon shooters. And there's enough of them to seriously drive up
> prices of desirable lenses (Go price a MC Rokkor 58mm f1.2 or a Zeiss
> 21mm f2.8 Distagon vs what they were 3 years ago). And M42 is one of the
> two mounts almost every Alt-lens shooter on Canon starts with (the other
> being F mount).
>
> -Adam
>
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:49 PM, JC OConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Nope, the M42 market prices would have fallen way off by now if the
>> market for them was so small, they havent surprisingly. It's weird
>> because you would think that most film users would have abandoned them
>
>> ( I have ), but the prices still are holding up on them (at least the
>> good ones). They are going for more now then they were 5-10 years ago
>> when market was mostly still film slrs in use.
>>
>> JC O'Connell
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of David Savage
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:17 PM
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: ANY M42 DSLR rumors (yet)?
>>
>>
>> No, the supply of old M42 lenses is huge. The market for them is
>> small.
>>
>> If the market was so huge someone would have made a M42 DSLR by now.
>>
>> And given the rise of the Yen, shrinking DSLR sale profits & general
>> global economic difficulties, we're not going to see one anytime soon
>> if at all.
>>
>> DS
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of JC OConnell
>> Sent: Thursday, 20 November 2008 9:03 AM
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: ANY M42 DSLR rumors (yet)?
>>
>> M42 lens market is huge, not tiny!
>>
>> JC O'Connell
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of John Celio
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 3:15 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: RE: ANY M42 DSLR rumors (yet)?
>>
>>
>> The closest you will ever get to an M42 dSLR is a K2000/Km with an m42
>
>> adaptor.
>>
>> There is zero chance that any manufacturer would make a low-profit
>> camera to use no-profit used lenses that have been around for decades,
>
>> and which probably won't work well with a digital sensor anyway.
>> There is such a tiny market for this that I can't see any reputable
>> manufacturer trying to fill it.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
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