On Nov 30, 2008, at 3:57 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stan Halpin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Agree - interesting story Mike. I wonder a bit at the emphasis on the
photographer though. The editor certainly bears some responsibility in making his/her choice of what image to use. The point of the story seems to question a photographer's freedom to provide some artistic interpretation of reality, opting instead for a narrower straight forward representation of the portrait subject. As though there were only one reality. Whereas there are in fact many realities, ranging from the subjects' many self- images to the public's understanding of the subjects to the editors or photographers understanding of who the person is. Why should the photographer be the fall guy? It should be the bill payer (subject or editor) who determines which
reality should be portrayed.  IMHO.

stan

I'd tend to agree. A portrait photographer is NOT a reporter or
journalist and operates under a different set of ethics. And in
general the portrait photographers mentioned do so very clearly.

Jill Greenberg is an exception in that on the McCain incident. What
she did was clearly contrary to what the Editor requested. Of course
if the Editor had done some proper homework they would have known that
she's a known publicity hound with no regards for her subjects at the
best of times.

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But first, Greenburg got the shot the editors wanted- the first image in the slide show. Since she posted the "Evil McCain" picture on her own web sight, she must not have sold exclusive use of the image to the magazine. In her position, I wouldn't even offer
the image to the magazine.

Then, at the end of the piece, she said that editors have sent her out with instructions to bring back unflattering pictures. So from her prospective, I can understand why she
didn't consider it to be such a big deal.

I guess it depends on how tightly her contract was written.

BTW- I remember the Washington Post's photos of President Ronald Reagan were often less than flattering, so I guess that "editorializing by photo" isn't a particularly new concept.

Cheers
Mike

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