PJ,
Here's what I get for minimum apertures in the K20D viewfinder...
F70-210 f4-5.6 reports f8 with AF1.7 converter.
F28/2.8 reports f4.5 with converter.
FA43/1.9 reports f3.5 with converter.
FA77/1.8 reports f2.8 with converter.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:13 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All right, I don't know what to make of this.  My F 70-210 4.0~5.6 works
> fine on the *ist-D and *ist-Ds and everything seems to be reported
> correctly.
>
> When I mount it on the 1.7x AF adapter the maximum aperture is reported as
> f8,  now I don't quite understand, because that just looks wrong I was
> expecting it to report f 6.7.  So I figure I'll calculate the approximate f
> stop of that combination with fCalc.  So naively I just punch in the
> numbers.  f4.0 returns 7.21.  Hum That's only 1/3 stop off of f8.0 so maybe
> that's right, but that's less than 2/10 from 6.7...
>
> So I decide to test using another lens.  I'd never use this combination but
> it was available, so I put the FA 20-35 and FA 1.7x maximum aperture is
> reported as f6.7 what?  Well that's less than 2/10s stop off the actual
> value in the other direction.  Now I'm really curious so I try the FA 28-70.
>  That too reports f6.7.  Next I try an A lens, lets see, I have the A*300
> f4.0 so I try that.  Lo it too reports f6.7.  Consistency at least.,
> reporting the nearest standard 1/2 stop to the actual value.
> Maybe it's variable aperture lenses that give strange results so I figure
> I'll try the F 35-70 3.5-4.5, now that reports 6.7???  That's just about
> 2/10s of a stop off, and it's the next normal click stop...
>
> <Aside> Now lets say right here that according to the information on Boz's
> page there is no way for the camera to know that it's a variable aperture
> lens mounted on the camera, that information is carried by the digital data
> pin and there's no pass through for that on the AF 1.7x converter, the
> converter substitutes it's own digital data. So it's working from the
> maximum and minimum aperture data on the original A specification.</aside>
>
> But now I'm really curious.  What about the A28 f2.8.  Once again a
> combination I'm unlikely to ever use.  fCalc thinks it should be f5.05 the
> camera reports it as f4.5.  Once again under 2/10 of a stop variance and the
> next closest normal click stop once again consistency.
>
> All right what about a 1/3rd party lens?  The only one I've presently got
> that will fill the bill is the Vivitar S1 70-210 f2.8~4.0.  The aperture at
> 70mm is the same as the A 28mm but it's a variable aperture lens.  Result is
> the same as the A  28mm, which is what I would have expected if it weren't
> for the behavior of the F 70-210 with the 1.7x converter.
>
> So I decide to try the FA 43mm limited.  I expect the combination to show a
> maximum aperture of f3.5, and yes I'm not disappointed, once again the
> nearest standard click stop to the actual, (well starting from a base of
> f2.0 since there's no pin combination in the A specification for a max
> aperture of f1.9), value.
>
> So lets recap.  The only lens that gives a result at variance with what I
> would expect is the F 70-210.  All the maximum apertures are a bit off of
> actual,  but all the lenses and the F 1.7x report consistently to the
> nearest standard click stop, all on the high side except the F 70-210mm
> f4.0~5.6.  Which reports to the low side and a bit more than 1/3 of a stop
> off.
>
> This is actually bugging me, I know it shouldn't but it is.  The next
> nearest value should be f 6.7 for the 70-210.  All the other f4.0 maximum
> aperture lenses and the F 1.7x adapter report a maximum aperture of 6.7.
>  All the other lenses report within 2/10 of a stop of their actual maximum
> apertures.  All the other lenses I tested reported values constant with the
> f4.0 maximum aperture lenses, all quite predictable.
>
> None of this seems to effect actual exposure either, just the reported
> aperture.  The only place this would be a problem would be with off camera
> flash, and variable aperture lenses make hash of that anyway, so it
> shouldn't bug me yet it does.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone has an explanation, I certainly can't come up with
> one that makes any sense. (Except that I'm obsessive compulsive and I
> already knew I had those tendencies).
>
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