Godfrey, I agree with you that the volume of messages from Pentax is so far not extremely large, but it is not an excuse. (see 4. below)
1. I did not sign up for any mailing effort. I created a gallery login for which an e-mail address was required. 2. I did not send any requests for information (as they started claiming in the footer that I quoted). This is a lie! 3. The latest e-mail is not "information about services" as it states in the privacy policy, but rather ADVERTISEMENT of PRODUCTS. When you create a login for your bank (utility, phone, etc.) account, - it does not mean that they all subscribe you for multiple e-mail lists. At the very least,- you can choose that in your profile. It's not the case with Pentax Gallery. 4. I am against "opt-out" mailing lists. I am all for "opt-in". 5. In response to the popular "you can always delete it", "you can unsubsribe": My interests and activities (hobbies and professional) are very diverse. If every vendor and every website I have to create a login for would opt me in their mailing list(s), all I would be doing is to unsubscribing and deleting messages. The problem with such messages is that they can be legitimate, and hence the anti-spam filters usually do not mark/filter out them as spam. If you do not agree with 5. above, - please let me know and I would be happy to sign up you for every mailing list that I will see around. :-) I do not want to waste any more time on this subject. I informed fellow PDML-ers about what Pentax does, which IMHO is a bad business practice. Cheers, Igor Tue Dec 16 13:23:47 EST 2008 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Let me get this straight: - You signed up on their mailing Gallery effort, which included a statement as to how they would use your information and not share it with other vendors. "Collected Information: How We Use It We request and use only information that is absolutely essential to respond to your requests for information on our products or services and to inform you of services we think may be of interest to you. Our site uses your IP address (an IP address identifies the type of browser you are using i.e. Netscape; Internet Explorer by assigning a unique number) for general system administration to serve you better by diagnosing problems with our server." - In the entire time you've been on the gallery mailing list, you've gotten six, maybe eight, missives from Pentax Imaging talking about their products, events, and etc, including advertisements. - And now you're pissed off about what you signed up for. Seems a bit ridiculous to call them "spammers". Giving your email address to a company embarking on a promotional effort is indeed a request for more information. Unsubscribe if it annoys you that much. I just delete these things. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
