On Dec 21, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

What instructions did the paper vendor supply for use with these papers?

Well, Brilliant supplied a 6 page direction sheet, which I'll spare you, Godfrey :-)--and I will go over it again, but often times I find these profiles are written for Photoshop specifically. I was told that I could use them in Lightroom, but even when told that, I quietly didn't believe it. I mean, I'm proceeding on the assumption that an ICC profile is written for a specific printer, paper type, & processing software. Am I wrong? Don't hesitate to say so :-).

An ICC profile presents a transform from Lab color space to a particular printer, paper and inkset color space, given the appropriate rendering intent and particular printer driver/hardware setup. The documentation usually uses an application to implement those specific configuration requirements, and that is usually Photoshop, but as long as you can make the configuration requirements in the printer as needed the application used to do it is arbitrary.

There's always the possibility that the profiles are bad too.

Yes, I've heard this too--have you ever purchased custom made ICC profiles? If so, who did you use?

I've had a couple of color profiles done for me, once upon a time, by a friend out in Minneapolis. He works for a company which does this work, but I don't recall the name of the company off hand. Most of the time, I just used the profiles provided by the paper vendors.


Profiles usually give more accurate and more consistent results, but that depends on how good they are and how they're used. I had horrible results with one or another Hahnemühle paper profiles until I read through the instructions in detail and found they were designed to be used with the printer driver set up completely differently than I expected it ought to be.

I am very eager to try Hahnemuhle--I'll be sure to read the directions :-)

Hahnemühle Photo Rag Smooth 308gsm is my favorite. It usually feeds well and has a beautiful warm tone, but it tends to cut sharpness just a little bit compared to Velvet Fine Art. I also tried their new Bamboo paper but it proves to be a very difficult paper for the R2400 to feed properly (tends to curl easily and is quite thick).

Godfrey
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