Marx was right unemployed workers are angry. But once again, the only reason Obama wants Republican votes is cover, so when it all fails he can say in this order, "Still Bush's Fault" "We tried but didn't spend enough", and if that doesn't work, "The Republicans agreed with us so it's their fault too". Of course he won't say those things, he has people for that. Look the administration could pass the damned "Stimulus" bill with one Republican voting for it in the Senate. They convinced three. Well good. When nothing gets better in the next year they can say it was bipartisan, (see my previous statement). I wish them luck with that. Especially when non-partisan watchdogs are already pointing out that the majority of the stimulus doesn't kick in until year four. Which given the course of most recessions, unless we are truly in another "Great Depression" will be long into a new expansion. As an asside of course it takes a lot of government action to produce a "Great Depression", I'm beginning to believe that Obama and his people just might be up to it. The Republicans were right to vote no in the House. The Republicans in the Senate should have done the same thing. Maybe force a real stimulus package that would do some good at least, not just put the next generation into further debt. Most of the rest of the crap in the bill should considered be in seperate bills and voted for on it's own merits, it wasn't done that way because without an emergancy most of it wouldn't pass even with all three branches of government controled by the Democrats, and they know it.
I don't bring these discussions to the list but I will respond. I'm not even a Republican, but I do agree with their principals, even if they don't seem to a lot of the time. -----Original Message----- >From: Ken Waller <[email protected]> >Sent: Feb 8, 2009 6:21 PM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: OT - Stimulus package > >What Paul Said. ;+} > > > >Kenneth Waller >http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: OT - Stimulus package > > >>I think this should be taken off list or to a site where political >>discussion is encouraged. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bob Sullivan" <[email protected]> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 4:50:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >> Subject: OT - Stimulus package >> >> Peter, >> It sounds like Obama didn't do much of a job getting his party on >> board with the stimulus package. It sounds like way too much pork. >> But as a life long Barry Goldwater Republican, this crisis is the >> Republican's failure. It's the extreem swing of the pendilum from the >> Ronald Regan de-regulation initiative. Now despite all the good that >> came with the conservatives, we are headed back to FDR and socialism. >> The Republicans need to help make this problem go away as quick as >> possible, before everyone turns against them. Marx and Lenin will >> tell you that there is nobody as angry as an unemployed worker. >> Regards, Bob S. >> >> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Peter Alling <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Why should the Republicans vote for the stimulious package? Especially >>> if they don't think it is one. The CBO (Congressional Budget Office), >>> anaylisis is not encouraging about it's stimulating effect, in fact they >>> think it may inhibit the recovery. It's a Congres Critters job to not >>> vote for stupid bills, as much or more than to vote for good bills, (and >>> by that logic Democrat's shouldn't vote for it either, but hey, it's >>> their bill). At a cost of $120,000 for every $30,000 job produced it's a >>> bad deal for the taxpayer. My suggestion, just pay everone you can >>> identify who would have gotten one of those jobs $60,000 and let them >>> spend it. It's a better deal for the taxpayer, and would provide more >>> stimulious, produce more jobs, and probably get those spenders real jobs >>> faster. The Republicans are finally doing their job and you think it will >>> end their party? You might be right, but if so it's the end of the >>> country anyway. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>>From: Bob Sullivan <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Feb 5, 2009 9:32 PM >>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>Subject: Re: OT - Obviously not a H2G2 fan >>>> >>>>Dave, >>>>Ours are equally stupid over here. >>>>The Republicans are like the little kids who threaten to hold their >>>>breath until they turn blue. >>>>They won't vote for the stimulus package. Think depression next and a >>>>proper burial for the Republican party. >>>>The Democrats are like kids in a candy store, stuffing every pocket >>>>with stimulus package money 'cause it's flowing. >>>>If Obama doesn't give them both a bad case of red ass, I'll be very >>>>disappointed. >>>>Regards, Bob S. >>>> >>>>On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Savage <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> So the world economy is up Poo Creek. Governments around the world are >>>>> proposing stimulus packages to try & help dig their economy's out of >>>>> it. Australia is no different. >>>>> >>>>> Earlier in the week the Prime Minister proposed a AU$ 42 billion >>>>> stimulus package. This is now being debated in the Senate. Listening >>>>> to some of the Senate hearings on the radio this morning one Senator >>>>> asked a treasury official: >>>>> >>>>> "What's so magical about the number 42?" >>>>> >>>>> Stupid politician. >>>>> >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Dave > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
