I understand what your saying but if you do a drag and drop and then
leave the session open
for later drag and drops, its a multisession recording which is
different from a finalized
CD-R Im pretty sure. The disc has to be a closed out / finalized and
then it should be per
the ISO standard regardless of whether it was drag and dropped, burned
via an application
or OS.

JC O'Connell
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Anthony Farr
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:43 PM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: That's it I'm Done with Digital (for now)


The problem of standard vs non-standard disk formats came from drag and
drop compilations before WinXP.  I first burned disks in Win98, which
only had native support for CD-ROM but not CD-R.  Consequently the drag
and drop method of disk compilation was left up to drive manufacturers
to configure, and different brands had different formats.  

Win XP has native drivers for CD burning, so maybe all disks made from
the desktop with WinXP will be standardized, but I've never bothered to
investigate.  

When I moved to a WinXP box, I found that some of my old disks were
unreadable.  It turned out that the unreadable disks were drag and drop
compilations, which had a proprietary disk format exclusive to HP, the
drive's brand in my previous computer.  These "bad" disks required a
reader from HP before they could be read, WinXP couldn't read them.  The
disks that I'd made to be  " read on any computer", using the drive's
GUI, were all OK.
>From that time I've only ever created standard format disks through the
drive's software rather than through Windows (because the next version
of Windows might do drag'n'drop burning differently and I'd rather not
find out the hard way ).

IOW I'm speaking from personal experience and investigation.

When I refer to "Drag and drop" compilations, I refer to dragging files
onto the Drive's icon, or into the opened folder of the drive, and
letting the OS take care of the writing method.  I never do that these
days (I always open the drive's GUI)and I attribute my good record of
disk non-corruption to that precaution.

Regards, Anthony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of JC OConnell
> Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 2:45 PM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: That's it I'm Done with Digital (for now)
> 
> Im not sure thats correct, if every brand recorder did their own thing

> there would be a world of mess. They are all supposed to meet ISO 
> standards for CD-R and CD-RW writing I would think. Maybe
> you are referring to multisession disks that were never "finalized"
when
> burned? There may not
> be a standard on those, I have seen that problem with DVD-video
writers,
> but if they are finalized
> they should be able to be read by any disc reader.
> 
> JC O'Connell
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> Of Anthony Farr
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:17 PM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: That's it I'm Done with Digital (for now)
> 
> 
> Last year I got an external hard drive and re-imported all my optical 
> media since 2002.  There wasn't a single bad one.  One precaution I 
> learned early was to not assemble a compilation by drag and drop in 
> the OS GUI, but to use the optical drive's GUI and create a disk that 
> "can be read on any computer".  Apparently, different brand recorders 
> use different proprietary formats for disks created by drag and drop, 
> and disks can only be read by the drive (or brand of drive)that 
> recorded them.  Or you need to install a reader for the old disk 
> format on your new system.
> 
> So now I have everything on 2 discs made at different times (all still

> good), and on an external HD.  I have another external HD in the box 
> waiting to go into service.  I'll think I'll make it a part time 
> resident on my system, and leave it disconnected except during 
> backups.
> 
> Regards, Anthony
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf

> > Of Evan Hanson
> > Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 9:29 AM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: That's it I'm Done with Digital (for now)
> >
> > So last night the hard drive on my 2.5 year old mac died.  Don't 
> > even get me started on the fact that Apple knew the seagate drive 
> > used on my mac was prone to failures.  My last backup was on Jan 30.

> > So I dig
> 
> > out the CD's and guess what.  2 out of 10 of the CD's have failed.  
> > I was so angry I was on the verge of cursing.
> >
> > As if to taunt me my boxes of negatives were stored right next to 
> > the CD's.  I pulled out a box and looked at a sleeve, a softball 
> > game from
> 
> > 1982.  Still looking good despite spending almost 30 years in a dark
> closet.
> >
> > So I think I'm going to take a break from digital for a while and 
> > shoot only film.  I know the data loss can happen in any medium but 
> > after two devastating losses in the past 4 years I need to get back 
> > to
> 
> > simpler
> times.
> >
> > Evan
> >
> 
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