Welcome, Graydon!

Impressive first post.  You seem intelligent, informed, and thoughtful.

How will you -EVER- fit in -here-???

Rick 

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--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Graydon <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Graydon <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: FF pentax DSLR
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 7:26 PM
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:42:27PM -0500, JC OConnell
> scripsit:
> > Pentax has offer camera systems that keep up with
> > the photo marketplace, not just their own current lens
> lineups...
> 
> Oh, God bugger a moose.
> 
> Not only does Pentax not have to do that; Pentax can't
> do that.  They
> are small; they do not make their own sensors.  They do not
> have deep
> pockets.  They are quite capable of noticing that full
> frame digital,
> while cool and interesting and all, isn't where the
> money is, too.
> 
> If Pentax wants to move off their current value
> proposition, which is
> one of really excellent value for money, they have about
> five options:
> 
> - go niche in a sensor-partner independent way,
> concentrating on
>   ergonomics and lenses for that niche.  (Small, light,
> weather sealed
>   cameras; this looks like what they are already doing. 
> Note that this
>   reinforces the value-for-money proposition.)
> 
> - go niche with a particular sensor partner; if the sensor
> partner has
>   deep enough pockets, they can pull a Lecia and introduce
> a new camera
>   with a lens lineup.  If not, they certainly can't do
> it themselves.
>   Otherwise, trade the sensor partner lens design expertise
> (which is the
>   one thing Pentax really has to sell from a camera
> perspective) for
>   electronic design expertise.  This scenario leads to a
> Samsung K-mount
>   full frame and Pentax staying in APS-C.  It also involves
> Samsung being
>   willing to spend stacks of cash on niche cameras.  (If
> it's not a cell
>   phone camera, it's a niche camera.)
> 
> - make a play for upmarket position with medium format; let
> Sony, Nikon,
>   and Canon fight it out for the full frame market, while
> gnawing on it
>   from the top (Digital 645 for the same betwixt-5-and-10
> kUSD price
>   point as the top-of-the-line pro DSLRs) and bottom (APS-C
> DSLRs.)
>   Probably don't have the capital to try this on their
> own, though I
>   should love to see them try.
> 
> - leverage the sensor partner; Samsung is one of the very
> few surviving
>   chip makers still doing memory, and memory is the nasty
> front edge of
>   chip fab technology.  (Memory is generation 0; current
> CPU processors is
>   generation 1, GPUs/budget CPU/embedded/etc. is generation
> 2.)  If you
>   can get a couple chip fab generations ahead of your
> competition, you can
>   do all sorts of interesting things with your sensor that
> lets you say
>   "cheaper! better!" in an effective marketing
> way, should you stumble
>   upon some effective marketing types at a career fair
> somewhere.
> 
> - go home and make endoscopes; selling things to people who
> are readily
>   swayed by marketing babble is difficult and bad for the
> soul.
> 
> 
> No one knows what they're going to do; the various
> execs at Hoya
> probably don't, given the interesting state of the
> global economy.
> 
> In the meantime, is it possible to have fun, take good
> pictures, and
> learn something with an APS-C camera?  Why, yes, yes it is.
> 
> Is doing so observed to cause the organ of generation to
> fall right
> clean off, shrink, or otherwise collapse in shame, despite
> brothers-in-law, bosses, or poker buddies with full frame
> cameras?
> 
> If such a sad thing is observed to occur, well, the fault
> is not likely
> in the camera.
> 
> 
> ...uh, hi!
> 
> Had a K20D for not quite a year; my third camera and first
> DSLR.  (The
> predecessors were an Konica/Minolta A200 and a Panasonic
> LX2.)  I like
> it very much, and am still only an egg when it comes to
> photography.
> 
> Anyone got any advice on the minimum shutter speed for
> getting small
> songbird wings to freeze?  I'm kinda hoping it's
> below 1/1000 of a
> second somewhere.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -- Graydon
> 
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