Which one is a viewfinder camera? The Bessa L has no viewfinder or rangefinder, the R 
has a combined range-viewfinder and the M has rangefinder but no viewfinder. With L 
and M you have to use accessory viewfinders. 
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen

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Aihe: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)


>No, it is a viewfinder camera. Rangefinder cameras by definition have an
>optical rangefinder. That means all those AF p&s cameras are not RF cameras
>at all. Calling them RF cameras is about the same as calling them SLR.
>camera, misleading to say the least.
>
>Ciao,
>graywolf
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kent Gittings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:00 AM
>Subject: RE: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)
>
>
>> Even if the camera uses separate viewfinders like early Leicas it's still
>a
>> rangefinder camera.
>> Kent Gittings
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Niesmertelny
>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:49 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super)
>>
>>
>> Frank, I own the Bessa L (no rangefinder/needs an lens-specific
>viewfinder)
>> with the Snapshot Skopar 25mm f4.  True, the body is plasticky, but the
>lens
>> is worth the price of the whole kit.  I'll get the 15mm eventually.  In
>> terms of shutter noise, I don't think the camera was ever intended on
>being
>> Leica-like, only Leica-ready.  My ME Super is probably as quiet, maybe
>more
>> so.  But it is a funky camera, good for a conversation whenever it goes
>out,
>> and not "threatening" as an SLR might be (as it is just plain goofy
>looking
>> to the general population).
>>
>> I got mine from B&H when they were having a "special", selling them for
>> US$129.00 (body only).
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Frank thanked the respondents:
>>
>> Thanks for your responses.  I surfed around the web a bit last night, and
>> much of what you three said was confirmed in various reviews.
>>
>> Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me
>wrong).
>> They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some
>have
>> found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't.
>>
>> And the lenses have been almost universally praised (plus, I guess, you
>can
>> stick old Leica screwmounts on them if you want/can afford to).
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