Which one is a viewfinder camera? The Bessa L has no viewfinder or rangefinder, the R has a combined range-viewfinder and the M has rangefinder but no viewfinder. With L and M you have to use accessory viewfinders. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
-----Alkuper�inen viesti----- L�hett�j�: Tom Rittenhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> P�iv�: 21. joulukuuta 2001 23:06 Aihe: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) >No, it is a viewfinder camera. Rangefinder cameras by definition have an >optical rangefinder. That means all those AF p&s cameras are not RF cameras >at all. Calling them RF cameras is about the same as calling them SLR. >camera, misleading to say the least. > >Ciao, >graywolf > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kent Gittings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:00 AM >Subject: RE: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) > > >> Even if the camera uses separate viewfinders like early Leicas it's still >a >> rangefinder camera. >> Kent Gittings >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Niesmertelny >> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:49 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: OT - Voigtlander Bessa L&R (but I mention ME Super) >> >> >> Frank, I own the Bessa L (no rangefinder/needs an lens-specific >viewfinder) >> with the Snapshot Skopar 25mm f4. True, the body is plasticky, but the >lens >> is worth the price of the whole kit. I'll get the 15mm eventually. In >> terms of shutter noise, I don't think the camera was ever intended on >being >> Leica-like, only Leica-ready. My ME Super is probably as quiet, maybe >more >> so. But it is a funky camera, good for a conversation whenever it goes >out, >> and not "threatening" as an SLR might be (as it is just plain goofy >looking >> to the general population). >> >> I got mine from B&H when they were having a "special", selling them for >> US$129.00 (body only). >> >> Best regards, >> >> Chris >> >> >> Frank thanked the respondents: >> >> Thanks for your responses. I surfed around the web a bit last night, and >> much of what you three said was confirmed in various reviews. >> >> Turns out the body's plastic (a camera shop selling them steered me >wrong). >> They also seem to have variable quality from sample to sample, as some >have >> found them quite noisy for a rangefinder, while others haven't. >> >> And the lenses have been almost universally praised (plus, I guess, you >can >> stick old Leica screwmounts on them if you want/can afford to). >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >> >> >> >> ********************************************************************** >> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >> are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >> the system manager. >> >> This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >> MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. >> >> www.mimesweeper.com >> ********************************************************************** >> - >> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

