This is the core of the argument. Preferences and facts are different things. I'm not 
denying that the Z-1p gives more features for the money. Also do I except that some 
prefer it to the MZ-S. Apart from a slightly slower max shutterspeed and slower film 
transport, the fact is that the MZ-S has more features than the Z-1p, has a simpler 
interface, and is better built and finished. Where your preferences are is of course a 
different issue. 

P�l




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Artur Led�chowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Odp: I love the PZ-1p


> Artur,
> 
> I'm quite surprised that you feel that aperture control on the lens is
> a step backward.  I used PZ-1p's for quite a while and used to own 2
> of them.  I am not faulting the cameras at all, as I rather liked
> them.  But in using the MZ-S's I don't find using the aperture ring a
> backward step.  You may feel differently, but I have done both and
> just find them slightly different - not forward/backward.  One can
> always argue that if you are in an automatic mode, controlling the
> shutter or the aperture nets you the same basic settings.  So if you
> want to control it from the body, just spin the dial (MZ-S).
> 
> As Pal has said, the mode switching on the MZ-S is much faster with
> less fuss than the PZ-1p.
> 
> Fortunately, those who want to continue using the PZ-1p may continue
> to do so.  There is still some stock left and Pentax is servicing
> them.  Those who want to move to a different, full featured body can
> do so.
> 
> I can say that I was not unhappy with my PZ-1p's and was more curious
> about the MZ-S.  After getting one and using it a bit, I found there
> were no features on the PZ-1p that I really needed that were not on
> the MZ-S and there were a few things about the MZ-S that I liked
> better than the PZ-1p.
> 
> A feature that is rarely talked about that I love is wireless
> flash control.  I have 3 AF360FGZ's set up with soft boxes and turn
> the flashes to wireless.  Set the MZ-S to wireless and TTL is fully
> functional with all flashes.  Each flash can be adjusted for output
> level for balancing.  The body can be set so that pushing the LCD
> illuminator button causing the modeling mode of the flashes to fire
> (strobes them to see shadows).  No muss, no fuss.  Can't do that with
> any other Pentax body.
> 
> 
> Bruce Dayton
> 
> 
> 
> Thursday, December 27, 2001, 6:53:40 AM, you wrote:
> 
> AL> ----- Original Message -----
> AL> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> AL> Subject: I love the PZ-1p
> 
> 
> >> Aperture control on the body is MUCH better than using
> >> the aperture ring on the MZ-S.  This is a BIG problem with the MZ-S and
> AL> zoom
> >> lenses.  Hyper manual should have been a feature on the MZ-S, in my
> AL> opinion.
> >> Heck...you can even change the aperture on the body of the ZX-7.
> 
> AL> EXACTLY!:) I have the MZ-7 and love the ability to control the aperture from
> AL> the body, since it allows me to do every operation without taking my eye
> AL> from the viewfinder. I have everything under control of my index fingers...
> AL> That in the MZ-S the Av operates by turning the aperture ring was quite a
> AL> disappointment to me. I've never owed neither a Z-1p nor the MZ-S, but
> AL> played with a Z-1 and a Z-50 - I had NO problem with mastering the control
> AL> of them without ANY manual (except for PF's, of course:)). Both were very
> AL> similar to my MZ-7. On the other hand, when I took the MZ-S, I couldn't do
> AL> anything with it, except for operating with shutter buton and DOF preview -
> AL> I was totally confused:((
> AL> Don't get me wrong - I have nothing against turning the aperture ring... in
> AL> case of older bodies (I have a Program A, too). If this way of Av is
> AL> continued, what will be the use of an "A" switch? IMHO it's a big step
> AL> backwards...
> AL> What I mean is that I've been trying to decide what more advanced body I
> AL> should buy... I can't make up my mind because both flagships have serious
> AL> pros and cons. The Z-1p has IMHO far better ergonomy and is generally better
> AL> thought then the MZ-S. On the other hand the MZ-S has a far superior AF
> AL> system, HSS, MRC, exposure data imprinting, battery grip (I don't know how
> AL> high is the energy consumption in the Z-1p) ... I'm not sure if investing in
> AL> the old technology is the right way, especially in case of the flagships...
> AL> And I've NEVER considered any of the Z/PZ series bodies to be ugly. I
> AL> especially like the idea of placing flash shoes off-center...
> AL> Greetz
> AL> Artur
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