In a message dated 4/1/2009 8:57:43 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
It seems to me that Marnie  may be confusing media with product - or at
least she's confusing ~me~.   Photography, paint, charcoal and stencils
are merely media that may or may  not produce art.  Taking photography
and doing something with it that  makes it look like another media
doesn't make the original photograph any  less "art".  Nor does
effecting those changes necessarily make the new  thing "more arty"
than the original.  Different, yes.  More  "arty"?  Not necessarily.

OTOH, since the faux change in media is  certainly part of Marnie's
expression, the change is art, so perhaps her term  "to artify" is
okay.  I guess what bothers me is the implication that  the original
product is not art, or that it's "less" art than the finished  product.

Or maybe I'm just being too picky.

That's  all.

cheers,
frank
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Don't think I had that  implication, that photography is less than. 

But you caught the jist -- a  change in apparent medium as to "how it looks." 
For me, my photography is less  than, so maybe you picked up on that. I am a 
better artist than a photographer,  and since I started late in life, probably 
always will be. And I am okay with  that, and I am not sure that I have the 
dedication to become a really GOOD  photographer. It's just a hobby for me and 
something I do when I have time.  Recently I've given thought to improving, 
like revisiting and revisiting the  Duck Club, until I experiment with DOF 
more, 
metering more, and get more of what  I want. Really exhaust the area.

And, to be totally truthful, I like the  mediums of art better than I like 
the mediums of photography -- more  paper/canvas styles, more rendering choices 
(pencil/paint, etc.), more depth on  surface, etc. 

But that is sure a strange argument, coming from you,  frank -- the 
non-artist.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)  
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