> Now, one can probably presume that a person who takes good > pictures has > learned how to not take bad ones.
They've learned not to _show_ bad ones. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of William Robb > Sent: 14 April 2009 06:19 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: regards PESO 2009 - 052 ... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Sullivan" > Subject: Re: regards PESO 2009 - 052 ... > > > I agree with Paul. > There are other forums for critique of photos. > Some folks want frequent and rich feedback, plus more critique. > Perhaps they have outgrown this forum. > > I'm going to be the disagreeable one, and here's why: > Because I'm a jerk. > But, besides that, there is an incredible body of talent on > this forum, and > to be honest, I think if all we say is nice things about each other's > pictures, then some of that talent is being wasted. > Look at the evolution of this list over the past decade. Ten > years ago, we > talked about lenses, and cameras and film and processing. > > Now, a new piece of equipment gets introduced, and it barely > gets noticed. > We talk more about software than lenses. > > But boy oh boy, since everyone went digital and got high > speed internet, we > sure do show each other pictures. > Lots of pictures. > Peso used to mean picture every so often, now it is an > acronym for another > link to click on, whether the person posted 5 pictures > yesterday or not. > Lots of pictures. Lots of good pictures too. > Now, one can probably presume that a person who takes good > pictures has > learned how to not take bad ones. > At least to rise above it all every now and again, anyway. > So, why not pass on that knowledge and tell a person that a > picture has some > suckiness to it, and had they done something differenty, it > might have been > improved. > It won't help the picture in question, but it might give the > photographer > something to think about. > Unfortunately, if there is a chill regarding honest and tough > critiques, > then the whole process risks turning into a circle jerk. > Now, there is that school of thought that says that the "I > would have done > this instead" does no good. The picture is what it is, so > comment on what it > is, not what it could be. > The critique then becomes the official opposition, that band > of losers who > bitch and whine, but don't come up with any credible ideas of > their own. > Think the Federal NDP with a Pentax. > What an awful thing to think about. > Or, it turns into a circle jerk because no one risks saying anything > negative. > > So, go to a forum that specializes in mean spirited critiques you say. > All very well and good, but when I put a picture up, I want > the people > critiquing it people whose work I've seen so I know where > they are coming > from visually, and who I've interacted with over time so I > have an idea of > what they know and how they view the world. > I think the email format of this forum works better for > critiques than does > the web page based forums. > > OTOH, I have seen some very heated discussions result from > something said in > an honest, but less than positive critique. > > William Robb > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly > above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
