On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Graydon <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:14:41AM -0300, Luiz Felipe scripsit:
>> EVF with a mirror camera? Lose the pentaprism and keep the mirror?
>> Lose  the prism and mirror but keep the camera otherwise the same??
>
> Keep the direct optical path to the viewfinder; lose the moving mirror
> and shutter.
>
> Ideally, this and the robustness deal gets the LCD off the back of the
> camera -- big flat fragile space that it is -- and replaced with a
> HUD-style overlay in the viewfinder.  The back can then support
> larger/more controls.  (Using the K20D 4-direction rocker dial with
> gloves?  Ick.)
>
> However, the main thing is to get the electro-mechanical stuff out of
> the optical path.

I'd rather just ditch the mirror altogether. It's the biggest weakness
of SLR's, since it affects AF accuracy and VF focusing accuracy. EVIL
is inherently more accurate for both manual focus and AF since you're
focusing off the imaging sensor itself. Don't ditch the LCD until
you've spent time with a good Live View camera with a flip/twist LCD.
It changes the game entirely.

>
>> The moment I think of EVF I also think of a mirror-less camera, with a
>> distance from lens mount to sensor as reduced as possible, with new
>> lenses to exploit the advantages AND a very good adapter to the former
>> lens format of the brand. AND a side adapter for all major lens mounts,
>> even if I'd sell it under a very different brand.
>
> That's what the Samsung NK is supposed to do.  I get the feeling that's
> not where Pentax wants to go.
>
> Straight EVIL does two things Pentax wouldn't like; it starts to use the
> lens aperture mechanism as the shutter, which means you lose lens
> backward compatibility, and it almost completely de-values optical
> design in the camera.  Pentax is still primarily, nigh-obsessively, an
> optical company.  They want to keep competing inside their area of
> speciality if they possibly can.

The G1 uses a normally-open shutter. No lens-based shutter systems.
And the introduction of digital nearly completely devalued optical
design in the body. The EVIL concept is just taking it to the next
step.

>
>> Since it's fairly close to usual dimensions, I expect a camera with
>> some  evolution. No revolution is expected here - sorry.
>
> I'm not expecting a revolution either, but, Hoya needs one, and Mike
> Johnson deferred his camera #2 recommendation today; "This is awkward,
> but I'm going to have to hold off with #2 until about this time next
> month. Still collecting data. What can I say—this slot was solid ten
> days ago, but the world changes."
>
> You know of any other plausibly-better-than-"A mid-level 4/3 or APS-C
> DSLR of the brand of your choice" -- which is recommendation #3 --
> that's going to be announced in a month?  I'm certainly not as
> well-plugged into the rumour mill as I could be.
>
> Mike certainly gets the lenses early.  He's had a K20D on long-term loan
> for almost a year now.  So it's not impossible he's got enough insider
> info on the successor camera to decide to hold on on recommendation #2.
>
> -- Graydon
>
> --

Its possible. It's also possible that he's actually read the bitching
on the comments about the E-420 pointing out that he picked the camera
with the worst VF and worst ergonomics in-class and realized that he
should have either gone with his first choice (any low-end DSLR) or
picked a camera that actually delivered on its promises (like the K-m
or A200).


-- 
M. Adam Maas
http://www.mawz.ca
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