I certainly hear that almost every day. The park I take my dogs to is above and parallel to a double siding where one or two freights pass either very slowly or stop to allow the passenger train, or a third freight, pass on the main line. If they misjudge the a bit, the train(s) on the siding have to stop, and I get the stereo effect of the compressing couplings boo boo boo boo boo boo boom. Some minutes later, the opposite direction of stereo phasing greets me as the freight re-starts.

Cheers

Joe


On May 26, 2009, at 20:29 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

There can be 6 inches of slack per car in a train.  This can help you
start a train rolling as you stretch out the accordion one car at a
time.  Remember the locomotives only weigh so much and the coefficient
of friction of steel wheels on steel rail is only .03 or so (even if
you're sanding the rail).  Getting going can be tough.  And being in
the 100th car back can give you a bad case of whiplash as the momentum
of 99 cars moving at 1/2 mile per hour accelerate you to 1/2 mile per
hour instantly!
But the slack can also play havoc with the train over the road.
Imagine a slight grade, followed by a dip, followed by another grade
and a 100 car train of loaded coal hoppers.  The engines strain to
take you over the first grade and you stretch out all the slack on the
way up.  But on the way down, you compress the slack out of the train
and then play 'crack the whip' on the way up, pulling the slack back
out.  If you're lucky, you don't break a coupler and make 2 train
segments.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Joseph McAllister <[email protected]> wrote:
On May 26, 2009, at 07:18 , Graydon wrote:

The fundamental limits on train size are engine traction and drawbar
strength.

Remember that when starting the train, at some point the engine to first car drawbar has the entire mass of the train on it; this turns out to be more of an issue than engine traction. Past a certain size, you get an awful ping noise as a drawbar breaks, and then you have *two* trains.

Isn't the drawbar heavily spring loaded, so as to allow the engine to at least get it's wheels turning a tiny bit before the weight of the train is slowly, but quickly, pressed upon it? I'm talking only a few inches of spring compression with a heavy load, but it does change the math a bit.

Am unable to find any drawings or descriptions in cursory search, so I may be mistaken, confusing model railroad engines to line engines. Anyone know
fer certain?


Joseph McAllister

Yes, and before starting a large train they push it together to take
up the slack, which allows the train to get teh front cars moving
before the rear cars, reducing the total force required as you only
have to overcome one cars coefficient of static friction at  a time.
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