Yes, Christine -

Definitely take a look at Kompozer.  It's relatively easy to use in WYSIWYG and 
it lets you tweak the source if you're so inclined - and it includes a CSS 
editor.  I once made an attempt to do a web page using MSPublisher.  After I 
saw how bloated it was with useless text I threw that idea out the window along 
with the file(s) I had just created.

-p

-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Walters <[email protected]>
>Sent: Jul 3, 2009 1:17 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: Way OT   @ $#*<h1>woman throws in towel on writing code</h1>*#$@
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>Christine
>
>I agree totally with Graydon.  Using Notepad to write HTML mark-up is a
>recipe for the sort of head-banging that you're experiencing.
>
>Grab a HTML editor - they are just text editors with enhancements to
>make writing HTML easy (I use HTML Kit - free for private use and it has
>HTML-Tidy built in to find all those typos).  If you'd rather not
>hand-code, try a WYSIWYG editor.  Someone here mentioned Komposer a
>month or two back.  I don't use it but I had a quick look at it - seems
>fine:
>
>http://kompozer.net/
>
>And please, please don't use MS Word to produce HTML.  It produces
>masses of bloated text liberally strewn with MS-specific tags. It might
>produce readable web pages but as browsers become more standards
>complaint, it might not in the future.
>
>
>
>Cheers
>
>Brian
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Brian Walters
>Western Sydney Australia
>http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
>
>
>
>On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:57 -0400, "Graydon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:39:35PM -0500, Christine  Aguila scripsit:
>> > Up until 2 days ago I had never written 1 line of html code--not one--for 
>> > any purpose.  I have spent the last two days, however, learning about 
>> > html and learning how to write some html code using Notepad so that I 
>> 
>> Couple points; HTML is markup, not code (no loops, no conditionals = not
>> code :) and writing anything beyond a short shopping list in Notepad is
>> a recipe for pain.  Lots of free HTML editors out there that will tell
>> you when you've forgotten an angle bracket, etc.
>> 
>> [snip]
>> > On the one hand I am a bit proud that I learned to write some
>> > code--and I learned how to write a css style sheet--and I was
>> > successful at linking the two, though they didn't link at first, and
>> > it took me forever to find the typo.  I had written *type="test/css"*
>> > instead of *text*.  Ugh!  And I got the jpeg to link to where I
>> > *almost* wanted it, but I never could figure out how to get my little
>> > two item list to align the way I wanted to.  Still, like I said, I'm a
>> > bit proud of my meager results here.
>> 
>> This is why specialized HTML editors are a good thing; they'll point out
>> mistakes like that.
>> 
>> Or you could go get a copy of tidy -- http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ --
>> which will at least find typeaux like that for you.
>> 
>> > But that's just the problem--oh, how meager the results are!  I have
>> > no  problem being a beginner at anything--it's where everyone starts
>> > when  learning something new, but gee wiz, you'd think after 2 days
>> > I'd be a little further along! 
>> 
>> Why?  There's a very large amount of complexity involved, and there are
>> big, big differences between the server-driven, pro-grade pages and what
>> you can practically hand-code.  Trying to emulate the server-driven
>> stuff by hand would stymie anyone.
>> 
>> > Moreover, I started looking at the code for some  elegantly simple web
>> > pages that I admire, and I'm totally intimidated by the complexity of
>> > the code and feel quite sure it would take me most of the next 12
>> > months just to get close to learning this stuff.
>> 
>> Have you considered looking at http://www.w3schools.com/htmL/ ?  That's
>> probably the single best HTML introduction available.
>> 
>> > Hence, I'm going to throw in the towel and will probably use Word Web
>> > Pages to get something up.
>> 
>> That's a lot like saying your first two tries at making bread produced
>> patio stones, so you're going to take arsenic now.
>> 
>> Open Office produces much better HTML than Word -- Word's HTML is
>> proverbially awful -- so if you want to use a WYSIWIG editor to generate
>> HTML, it's a better choice.
>> 
>> But, really, if you want to learn how to do this, get a decent free HTML
>> editor for your platform of choice, and start chewing through the
>> w3schools tutorial.
>> 
>> -- Graydon
>> 
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