On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 09:41:58PM -0400, paul stenquist wrote:

> This is an apples to oranges comparison. And it will remain that  

Same subjects, same light, same lenses, same place, same ISO.

> regardless of how much processing you do. If you want to compare the  
> cameras, do a controlled test. However, I would be surprised if the  

I will indeed need to do a controlled test. Prefereably using another
K20 also to compare mine with.

> K20 wasn't considerably better. Mine K20D was light years less noisy  
> than my *istD and a lot better at rendering color in AWB mode.

My first K20 was much much better than my K100. On a given night at
FNB, I might get 3-6 keepers with the K100, and when I got the K20 I
easily got 20 of better quality than I got with the K100.

So, it is my belief that the K20 should do much better than the K100,
that there shouldn't be any comparison. But, I'm not seeing the
tremendous difference in image quality that I expect. 

Frankly, I think that there is something wrong with this K20, that it
isn't performing as well as it should. I see a lot more noise in all
of the shots that I take with it than I expect. Unfortunately, that's
not something that is easy to test. If it doesn't take photos, I can
return it to Pentax and say "this camera is broken". But, there are no
published specs for SNR (signal to noise ratio), nor any easy way to
test and check that on a camera. 

It's definitely easier to use than my K100. I love the ergonomics, but
I think that I should be seeing much better image quality at higher
ISOs than I am. For that matter, even on my ISO 100 shots I see a lot
more noise in the sky than I expect I should. 

I could have unrealistic expectations, a K20 may not actually perform
any better than a K100, my K20 may not be performing well, or I may
just be imagining things and it really does work a lot better than my
K100. It's also possible that I am so much better with the K100, that
I can make it perform better than the K20. But I wouldn't expect
monopod braced shots, aperture priority, to make a huge difference.
Granted, with some of the shots, I used a tripod with only one leg
extended rather than a monopod, but I expect that the delta between
the two of those to be minimal.

I figured that shooting the same subjects under the same conditions
would be a case where I should see a lot of much better quality shots
from the K20 than with the K100, and that would convince me that I
was, indeed, imagining the poor performance of the K20.


-- 
The first step is learning to take great photos, 
the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
Larry Colen             [email protected]            http://www.red4est.com/lrc


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