From: Graydon
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:19:10AM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Graydon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 01:15:54PM -0500, David J Brooks scripsit:
> >> Or, a 1 day sentence for trying to blow up parts of Toronto and cut
> >> off Harpers head.
> >> Unbeliveble
> >
> > Well, more like claiming to have made wildly grandiose plans with no
> > plausible or even implausible mechanisms for success. ?Time served plus
> > a day plus probation for being young and unusually stupid with no actual
> > harm done seems... appropriate, really.
>
> Sorry, but don't agree here. Free to try and bomb some other place now.
> They planned to kill a lot of people and were caught before they could.,
They thought they ought to try, is I think closer.
Having the ability, or actively seeking the ability, to produce credible
plans to bomb some public place as a political act is a very different
thing than making lots of noise about bombs and going on about killing
the PM. If there's no evidence they know their head from their foot
it's a very different thing than if they made credible plans.
Sort of brings to mind some of the "Terrorist plots" that have been
broken up here in the U.S. As far as I know all of these hardened
criminal masterminds are indeed serving long sentences ...
The guy who somehow got the idea he could take down the Brooklyn Bridge
with only a blow torch.
The "Ft. Dix six" who hatched their plot over pizza and beer possibly at
the behest of an "undercover informant".
The Haitian "liberation army" who requested their "undercover informant"
supply them surplus army uniforms, especially BOOTS, since they couldn't
afford to buy shoes ... as well as the other equipment necessary to
carry out their plot.
What each of these "plots" have in common is "undercover informants" as
prime movers. Yeah, I know what the government says, but to my mind it's
questionable if they would have even conceived the plots, much less
taken any action without the active encouragement from government agents.
What this really does for me is cast doubt on the government's role in
other more serious cases.
Quite simply, I have to ask, "Are all of these cases 'Operation
Northwoods' revisited? How do I know they are not?"
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