Wednesday, January 23, 2002, 5:17:50 PM, Shel wrote:
SB> Nine aperture blades is a good starting point.  If you look ay many
SB> older, quality lenses, you'll sometimes find it hard to count the blades
SB> - there are sometimes a dozen or more.  For example, the mid- to
SB> late-fifties Leica Summarit (which I think you played with in Santa
SB> Barbara), has 12 or 15 aperture blades, and the aperture is as close to
SB> a true circle as I've ever seen.

SB> The question that comes to my mind is this: what's the advantage or
SB> disadvantage of a greater number of blades, apart from the shape it
SB> contributes to OOF highlights and the like?  Some newer Leica lenses
SB> have the most odd-shaped aperture opening, looking more like a six or
SB> eight pointed star rather than a pentagon, octagon, circle, etc.
SB> I don't like the OOF image on those lenses - they are star shaped.

SB> Steve Larson wrote:

manual aperture, pre-set and rangefinder lenses can have as many
aperture blades as they want. My Carl Zeiss Jena lenses from the
pre-set period have about 12-20 blades maybe. Let me tell you the
180/2.8 with its about 18 blades has perfectly circular bokeh at all
apertures...

but with auto-aperture and semi-auto-aperture the speed with which the
aperture closes and opens needs much less blades. That's why the 9
blades are maximum, and 5-6 blades are usual. There's less stress on
the mechanism. With 18 blades, it wouldn't close as quickly as
required for 5 fps motordrive or 1/2000 time.

The Leica highlights are really strange, often a many-pointed star
surrounded by bright ring, in sun-water reflections and highlights. I
guess at least some of it is attributed to bad coating (did I read on
Leica list that Father Leitz had the attitude that multicoating is not
really necessary if lens design is good?). Any other ideas?


Good light,
   Frantisek Vlcek
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