Hi again Rick,

the first one is the one I recall seeing from your original posting
about the issue - IIRC you also experimented with white point etc. But
it was good of you to answer since I was lacking the ambient light
bit, around here it is all artificial so I'll walk a few paces to one
of the backside canals.

Cheers
Ecke

2010/7/2 Rick Womer <[email protected]>:
> Ecke,
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "worst parameters".  Here's an example, though:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10151334
>
> (ISO 1600, f/3.5 @ 1/3 sec)
>
> And another:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9202604
>
> (ISO 1600, f/4 @ 1/30)
>
> What these two photos share is ISO 1600 and natural dusk light.  ISO 1600 pix 
> taken in artificial light (e.g. downtown Chicago pix) don't have magenta 
> concrete.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/1/10, eckinator <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> From: eckinator <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: filter enablement and cleaning
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 5:07 PM
>> Rick,
>>
>> I'll happily let you know. Since you've spent more time
>> looking into
>> it, what are the worst parameters regarding magenta
>> concrete?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ecke
>>
>> 2010/7/1 Rick Womer <[email protected]>:
>> > Ecke,
>> >
>> > I will be very interested to know if the new filter
>> eliminates the magenta concrete.  That and VPN in dark
>> skies are the two biggest problems with nocturnal
>> photography with my K10D.
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Thu, 7/1/10, eckinator <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> hi gang
>> >>
>> >> maybe this is old news to most of you but I
>> thought I'd
>> >> post it anyway
>> >> in case it isn't
>> >>
>> >> got my recent aby steal, a B+W UV/IR-CUT filter in
>> the mail
>> >> today and
>> >> replaced the Hoya Pro1 Digital MRC UV filter used
>> so far
>> >> which despite
>> >> frequent old school cleaning - give it a good
>> moist breath
>> >> and wipe it
>> >> with a piece of microfibre cloth - had lots of
>> spots and
>> >> fingerprint
>> >> residue etc on it. I remember reading somewhere
>> Hoyas have
>> >> a bad rep
>> >> for being hard to clean and so I broke out the
>> lens
>> >> cleaning liquid
>> >> and a bunch of other stuff and the result was
>> invariably a
>> >> colorful
>> >> smeary mess looking something like a wet oil stain
>> in the
>> >> street if
>> >> you know what I mean. Tried helmet visor cleaning
>> tissue
>> >> next,
>> >> eyeglass cleaning tissue, Olympus silicone
>> impregnated lens
>> >> cleaning
>> >> parchment and everything I could think of. Same
>> mess every
>> >> time.
>> >>
>> >> So I quit and googled "cleaning Hoya filters"
>> thinking,
>> >> "heck I'll ask
>> >> PDML if I can't find anything".
>> >>
>> >> Sure enough the first result was
>> >> http://www.hoyafilter.com/products/hoya/coatings.html
>> >> where it says
>> >> "Never use any chemicals, such as lens cleaning
>> fluid, on
>> >> your
>> >> filters, as these can damage the coatings. If any
>> stubborn
>> >> stains
>> >> occur, these can usually be washed off with some
>> clean
>> >> water and a
>> >> soft cotton cloth."
>> >> Big OUCH, I had used all apparently suitable
>> chemicals at
>> >> my
>> >> disposal... so I let it soak in water for a while,
>> found a
>> >> clean
>> >> cotton kitchen towel and gently rubbed. Some came
>> off, some
>> >> didn't so
>> >> I rubbed harder, figuring the filter was probably
>> ruined
>> >> anyway. But
>> >> guess what, every single stain came off, there is
>> no lint
>> >> on the
>> >> filter, no scratches, no cleaning marks no matter
>> which way
>> >> or side I
>> >> hold it into the light, under a light or shine one
>> across
>> >> it. It looks
>> >> absolutely like new. I can't find a single fault.
>> >>
>> >> BTW I bought the B+W to test the claim that the
>> K10D's AA
>> >> filter's IR
>> >> suppression is weak and that the filter will
>> prevent color
>> >> casts
>> >> ("magenta concrete") in darker image areas. There
>> won't be
>> >> a newer
>> >> Pentax for me in the near future so I have to
>> squeeze the
>> >> best out of
>> >> what I have. If there is anything to report, I
>> will pass it
>> >> on, if you
>> >> don't hear from me about this again I wasted a
>> couple of
>> >> Euros.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Ecke
>> >>
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