2010/7/8 Bob W <[email protected]>: > > It won't stop officious security guards and > similar from trying to stop us, but they have no powers of arrest or search.
don't forget citizen's arrest, pepper spray and the dangerous delusions that go along with them - I was witness of the state in an assault and battery trial against four tram ticket inspectors in Cologne a couple years ago. two of the ticket people had cornered an African tourist who spoke only French and admittedly had no ticket. buddy was like 170 cm tall and skinny and the guards were three guys of 190+ and a roid bumped female Chuck Norris. They had him backed up against a pole on the streetcar and were trying to get some ID from him and he kept saying in French he didn't have any on him. Main defendant started pushing him and he was visibly scared and raised his hands to chest level in a clear give up gesture. This was enough of an excuse I guess as the guy banged the back of his head into the pole a couple times, lifted him by the throat, carried him off the train that had just stopped, slammed him into one of those plexiglass stalls, all still by the throat and then down onto a bench where he choked him some more. All the time there was no resistance. This is when I finally got physically close enough to do something. Another guy and I stepped in, stopped them and called the police. The ticket guys not only refused to give ID which, them being public servants, was against the law but also produced little scraps of paper which had ยง127 paragraph 4 of the Criminal Procedure Code printed on them, i.e. the law governing citizen's arrest and actually tried to make us believe 127 justified their behaviour. They did identify themselves to police and charges were pressed by the public attorney meaning this was not considered a minor offense. The sentences were pretty high given they were all first offenders, three were fined 3 monthly salaries each and the main defendant got four plus 3 months on parole. He also appealed the sentence so I had to come again and the judge told him outright to withdraw his appeal or he would get a higher sentence yet. He complied. But all the while before and after the court sessions all four kept pestering us in the hallway that they had done nothing wrong and so on and bla bla and I think they actually believed it, too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

