Yes, volume license deals are legal. But they're a hassle sold by
people I don't trust.

I trust doing business with Adobe, Lightroom is worth $300 to me.
(Actually, Lightroom 3 is worth more than that to me, but I only need
to pay for the upgrade...)


On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Eric Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Aug 24, 2010, at 4:51 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
>
>> Carefully reading their FAQs should let you know that even though they say 
>> it can be upgraded, they infer you can upgrade it by browsing their site for 
>> the newer version. Not Adobe's site.
>>
>> There are dozens of sites like this that do a real good job of graphic 
>> design and word-smithing to appear legitimate. It's unlikely they are, 
>> however, if they are purchasing educational or OEM masters, and selling 
>> copies via the internet, they are likely breaking the license agreements for 
>> those copies they sell. Copies are not to be sold. You pay for a master copy 
>> and get a list of serial numbers when you acquire a master copy. The serial 
>> numbers (clients) might cost as much as they are selling copies for. Don't 
>> see a profit in it for them, unless they are selling the same serial numbers 
>> over and over and over.
>>
>> My conclusion is that they are running an
>
> An earlier response to my own message, in which I included the items from 
> their terms and conditions about not being able to register or get technical 
> support or upgrades, seems not to have gotten through to the list for some 
> reason.
>
> Anyway, I've checked other sites selling OEM versions of the software. My 
> sense from that is pretty much what everyone else has said, i.e., "avoid it" 
> or at least "proceed with caution." Some of the sites seem a little more 
> legit, at least if their word is to be believed, e.g., claiming that there is 
> no difference between the software they're selling and that sold at full 
> retail.
>
> However, I decided to take Bob's advice and check with Adobe. I couldn't find 
> anywhere on the website to send an email, so I called. Eventually, I was 
> referred to a guy in sales. I explained what I'd found, asked about legality, 
> registration, technical support and upgrades, and made it clear I wanted to 
> remain in Adobe's good graces. I was shocked, and I'm even wondering if the 
> guy knew what he was talking about -- or more likely, what I was talking 
> about, or if I'd made myself clear. In any case, he said it's legal, that 
> upgrades would be available for a small fee [$20], that that would be handled 
> through "volume licensing," and that the fact that I would be the sole 
> purchaser/user wouldn't matter. At one point I thought he was saying I could 
> purchase an OEM package directly from Adobe, but that turned out not to be 
> the case. I don't recall what he said, if anything, about technical support.
>
> I'm still inclined to proceed cautiously. Perhaps someone with a clearer and 
> more certain understanding of Adobe's policy will chime in here soon. If I do 
> decide to give a try, I will at the very least try to be as certain as 
> possible that what I'm getting is exactly the same product that's sold at the 
> full retail price.
>
> For what it's worth,
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